Thread: FPS Problems!

  1. #1

    FPS Problems!

    Heey, I know there are probably a ton of these threads, and I read thru some of them but I couldn't find a solution to my problem.

    I don't really know much about PC's, so forgive me if I may not know what exactly you are talking about.

    I bought a new PC in July and I reinstalled it last week as I bought an extra SSD. All drivers are up to date. I'm having major FPS Problems with
    all the Games I'm currently playing (WoW, League of Legends, Skyrim and Saints Row 4). I just came out of ToT LFR and I had to fight Primordius with 2
    FPS. The Game just isn't fun to play like that.

    Here are my Speccs from DxDiag:

    Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130801-1533)
    Language: German (Regional Setting: German)
    System Manufacturer: MSI
    System Model: MS-7721
    BIOS: BIOS Date: 12/26/12 14:54:34 Ver: 04.06.05
    Processor: AMD A6-5400K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (2 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
    Memory: 8192MB RAM
    Available OS Memory: 8142MB RAM
    Page File: 6498MB used, 9785MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
    System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
    DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

    Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650
    Manufacturer: NVIDIA
    Chip type: GeForce GTX 650
    DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0FC6&SUBSYS_8A961462&REV_A1
    Display Memory: 4042 MB
    Dedicated Memory: 1994 MB
    Shared Memory: 2047 MB
    Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
    Monitor Name: PnP-Monitor (Standard)

    Hopefully you'll be able to help me find out what I can do to resolve this.
    Thanks in advance for your help.

    P.S.: English is not my natve language so please excuse any mistakes.

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    Were you having FPS issues before the installation of the SSD?
    Did you make the SSD your boot drive?
    Have you checked all drivers?
    What settings are the games running on? (There is a chance their settings have changed which could be partially causing it).
    Have you tried reseating the gpu?
    CPU and GPU temps?
    Are the fps issues constant or just at certain times (intensive situations)?

    Sorry for the massive list just trying to narrow the search down.
    That is all I can think of to narrow it down for now i'll come back to the topic in about 10 hours when I knock off work and see how you are going.

    ---Edit---

    Just thought of one more thing, check the cpu cooler, there is a chance you bumped it when installing the ssd and the cpu is throttling due to temps. That is about the only way I can see getting fps issues in LoL considering it can pretty well run on a potato (I kid you not even my old core II duo laptop can run LoL at a playable rate).
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    Hey, thanks for your quick reply.

    Were you having FPS issues before the installation of the SSD?
    Yes. It's the same now.

    Did you make the SSD your boot drive?
    Yeah, I did.

    Have you checked all drivers?
    I have checked them all.

    What settings are the games running on?
    The game is currently running on "Fair" Settings.

    Have you tried reseating the gpu?
    I don't really know what that means.

    CPU and GPU temps?
    Speedfan is showing me these temps:
    GPU: 30C
    HD2: 24C
    HD1: 22C
    HD0: 24c

    Are the fps issues constant or just at certain times (intensive situations)?
    Mostly in intensive situations like in a boss fight or in team fights in League.

  4. #4
    Try turning off your AV for a short spell. Also make sure your are using the nVidia GPU not the inbuilt graphics.

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    Something is definetly wrong with your rig, I play the games you mentioned without any issues with my 6 year old rig.

    A few suggestions I have:
    Go to a place where you can tests FPS, for example on top of a building in SW/Orgri, turn on your FPS (Ctrl+R) and just do a full 360 rotation, look at how FPS fluctuates.
    Now do the same with lowest settings and highest settings.


    Reseating GPU is done like so:
    turn off PC.
    unplug the power cable (don't want to get electrocuted, just in case).
    take the graphics card out of the slot
    now put it back in, make sure it is set ALL the way in, it should be aligned with the slot perfectly, not tilted in any way.

    A little more:
    You seem to have page file for your hdd turned on, I always disable it on my computers, just a side note.
    If you want the benefit of SSD for games, you have to have your games on the SSD.
    Can you paste more info from your DxD Diag, all the lines for Display part.
    Is it PC or Laptop?

    Also you could try some GPU testing, maybe the card itself is at fault.
    First search game me http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
    PM me weird stuff :3

  6. #6
    Thanks for all your answers up to now

    @Cyrops, like I answered to slasher, those FPS Problems are only occuring in tense situations. I'm currently sitting in Shrine of the Two Moons (on a full pop Horde Server) and I'm at 45-50 FPS on "Good" Settings (Shadows on Low)

    Okay, I will try to reseat it.

    How do I disable page file for my HDD?
    And yeah, the games are installed on my SSD.

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    {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
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    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
    {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
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    D3D9 Overlay: Supported
    DXVA-HD: Supported
    DDraw Status: Enabled
    D3D Status: Enabled
    AGP Status: Enabled


    And its a PC.

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