Didn't read the whole discussion, but it's still a matter of the encounter what specc you use. Since demonology was nerfed... "slightly", I tend to try destruction as my offspecc (next to affliction obviously), because there's fights like Galakras, Sha or Garrosh that favor strong AoE-damage mixed with high focus-burst. Destruction has both, so there's nothing wrong with destruction as an offspecc. Also, the destruction warlock isn't that far behind the affliction warlock on single target encounters.
I'd only strongly advice him to play affliction on encounters like fallen protectors (since demo and uvols have been nerfed).
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Fucks sims unless you want world 1st's.
Play the spec you have fun with, and play it well.
Stop focusing on minimal differences in fantasy dps.
He plays for fun and you don't. You need to get over it or leave the guild. Its his choice.
If he's raid leading I wouldn't recommend going Affli. On some fights you have so much shit to keep track of it gets really hard to pay attention to what everyone else are/should be doing. Also, as already mentioned by some people, Destro sims high on single target atm. It's even with Affli for me at 560 ilvl.
-in 5 man dungeons, Arms Warriors again are the weakest link in the chain as they require 3X amount of healing as other classes and therefore die much more frequently and receive less healing in general, as with the amount of mana spent to keep an Arms Warrior alive the healer can heal all other members and himself.
It really depends. If your guilds goal is heroic progression, he should switch and learn aff. If it's normal/flex raiding, it doesn't matter, let him play what he wants.
Also what people have said, if he really is a skilled player he will switch specs and stop being bone-headed.
Last edited by Phraun; 2013-09-29 at 11:54 PM.
Summary of this thread: the usual overreaction to the perceived disparity between spec output.
He will perform way better playing a spec he enjoys playing than one he's forced to play. If he truly loves Destro he'll be more inclined to improve his performance by watching videos, reading guides/forum threads, whatnot. Intrinsic motivation isn't a buzzword, and it translates well to WoW.
All this "respec every fight for that 1.5% benefit or you suck" nonsense only matters at the absolute highest level. Below that, the difference is so minor that it's never going to matter. If you wipe at 1.5%, you should simply execute and control the fight better as opposed to going to town for an expensive, both in terms of gold and in terms of time, reforge/regem/rewhatever, that will gain you perhaps 3000-4000 DPS, provided you execute your secondary spec as well as your primary spec (highly unlikely).
The minor gap between 2/3 very competitive specs is always used as a scapegoat for poor fight execution and low % wipes.
Last edited by Myz; 2013-09-30 at 11:31 AM.
For some reason i first thought that you are talking about gamemaster , anyway there is pretty much nothing you could do to it, maybe changing guild?
I love how people just start slamming a random number pulled from the sky...makes me lol. Having low dps on General Naz can be related to a large amount of factors. Perhaps he had assassin's mark several times and the rest of the raid was slack in assisting with the issue. Maybe every time his trinks popped the general was in defensive stance etc. Imo that fight is kinda meh for Destro overall I think its pretty common to see about 150-170k dps as destro depending on ilvl etc. so although 120k seems low more details would be required before judgment lands imho.
Some fights in general are really not great for Destro.. in flex I recently swapped to a very poorly itemized Demo setup and am lacking in demo practice these days and still put out around 200k in demo vs. my Destro previously in the same gear that was doing about 170k. If he does not want to swap specs for some fights in 10/25N it should make very little difference for progression. In our guild we work around such issues and though we are hardly a raiding guild when we all happen to be online and actually do raid more than 2 hours a week we kill stuff.
Obviously I am pretty casual and hardly get to raid with our guild much lately but some of the responses here just make me think people are narrow minded at times.
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