I agree with almost nothing you've said OP.
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That's not an accurate statement at all.
The PC was a gaming machine a long time before WoW. Games like Doom raised the profile of PC gaming and successors, such as Quake 3 Arena, or even Counter Strike, catapulted online gaming to the fore.
I guess if you were born in the early 90's I could understand your logic, it's still wrong unfortunately.
I love this idiotic notion that if you like mmos you aren't "grown up". It isn't an age thing and it is insulting to continually claim it is.
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This whole "fast food fun" is such a crock of shit. Gamers spend as much time gaming now as they ever did. Enough with this nonsense.
WoW made MMOs die? Wow, it really is the America of the game world, isn't it... the scapegoat who's fault it always is.
MMOs are a particular style of game, and while we may be used to it by now so it's no longer the new and exciting concept it used to be, with a lot of the same themes done over and over, I can pretty much guarantee that the MMO style of games is not going anywhere. If anything it will probably be even more virtual and immersive in the future. Many people love the open world, free roaming, social...just general world-like aspect of it. There are no other "real" games I play outside of MMOs. (Nor am I "hardcore," and I'm far from alone in that, so I doubt it will return fully and only to hardcore roots either.)
MMOs are not dead. Their place as the new thing to fascinate us is and will be naturally surpassed by something else new and exciting. As it should be.
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And yet every single subscription mmo that has gone free to play in the past few years still maintains a subscription option for those who want it. In reality what is happening here is developers have realized a mixed payment model is far more profitable than doing free to play alone or subscription based alone. Subscriptions aren't going away and all that is happening here is players are being given more options, not less.
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It is 99% nonsense with a lot of pretty words in an attempt to hide what is really a poorly thought out post.
I agree. mmos are not as big as they once were. paid subs is dead.
I love these "WoW was the first MMO" threads. Essentially you're saying that WoW was the first and only MMO to "get it right", and then say now that WoW has lost some subs that the "golden age" is over. This is ridiculous. Most of those people that left WoW and unsubbed went to other games. I have many alts, and I've been in many guilds, I've seen 6 or 7 guilds now disband in WoW and switched over to Rift, GW2, Tera, Aion, FF14, SWTOR. Now, another guild is seriously talking about switching over to ESO. I know I am not the only one to experience this.
Second of all you present no evidence to support your claim other than stating the well known fact that subs are down for WoW. That's the only bit of information you present. You didn't show populations of other games, you didn't talk about server merges or total number of servers. Nothing. Also, to present you with information contrary to what you are talking about. Rift just lunched patch 2.4 and when they did they had a massive explosion of players, they ended up having to bring two more servers online just to keep their current servers from being locked out. They haven't had a drop in players since the launch of the patch.
Other MMOs fail because of warcraft.
They have made WoW SO, SO, SO accessible to everyone..
years of tuning, and fixing.. working on a 8yr old engine...
If thing's aren't "polished" like 8years of WoW (Anyone who has actually played since the begnining know the amounts of problems).
If anything isn't "as easy" and "gives free gear", "zergable", easy money.. all those factors that have been in WoW for so many years.. if it's not instantly in any other MMO, it's automatically shit?
Look at SWTOR (Ea is retarded on this in its own way..) "We didn't get 1mil subs, wow has 10mil.. our game sucks lets go F2P" - I wanna say rift/aion falls in this
While, in the same factor , FFXIV is "oh we have 500k subs.. we rule! screw what other people are doing this is our game" - ArenaNET's got somewhat the same idea
MMO games are getting old quick having to rely 10 people all the time just to progress on content. Neverwinter is the only game i know you can enjoy playing on your own without relying on people.
maybe OP meant to say "QUALITY MMO'S" are dead.. all these f2p mmos are trash, EXCEPT for the mmo's that were p2p then went f2p .. they still have hope.
like Rift .. im lvl 29 it's a pretty fun game.
Sounds more like a personal problem than anything. I don't know of anyone who I played with that was "bullied", we played WoW because we enjoyed games and enjoyed the fantasy setting. Sure, I'm aware that there are probably a decent amount of people who were "bullied", but to say that they started playing WoW because they were bullied is downright absurd. I must have been bullied into playing Nintendo when I was 5...back to the drawing board?because most of us had been bullied in school or had underlying issues
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Rift is a fun game until you realize that the build you're using to level up will completely suck when you're a higher level. What drew me into that game was the diversity in which you could build your character. Turns out it's just as cookie cutter as WoW is when you get up higher.