For example, I had ridiculous amounts of 496 armour tokens from my main. So I decided to gear up my DK who I dinged 90 at the start of mop and just left at 440 ilvl. I used all the tokens I had for him and got the free burden from the chest to upgrade one of them. I then bought the jp trinket from dominance offensive. I collected some valour from chaining h scenarios to buy the 522 vp neck. I got free 516 shoulders from the first h scenario quest and lastly got the 450 sword from the scenario quest. All this took me around 2 hours to do and I went from 440-498 ilvl. At this point I could have spent hours completing the ToT LFRs for a weapon better than 450, but why would I when I can go straight into SoO right now?
I'm not saying this is a good way to think or very good for LFR in general but I'm guessing a lot of people are thinking this way with their alts.
My dps was terrible and I was playing a class that I've played for about 2 hours in the last year but blizz thinks it is ok for me to queue up for SoO.
I do not think that way. I have 2 alts that I refuse to run SoO part 2 with right now, even though I meet the ilvl requirement. I know that the dps I am capable of on those chars, even with the required ilvl, is not enough to meet the requirements to kill some of those bosses, regardless of what Blizzard says.
Even then, though, I don't blame others at all for thinking differently. It's completely understandable.
If LFR success rates drop as a result of most players choosing to do Flex then the difficulty will be brought down.
If that doesn't happen it's because Blizzard doesn't want you in LFR, they want you in Flex.
Stop crying and do Flex seems to be the best decision as of this moment.
Personal anecdotes from running different toons. Yadda yadda grain of salt blahblah no meaningful conclusions:
Tuesday, the second wing was not bad as there were still heavy amounts of higher-end raiders there to lead the way. Still plenty of wipes but more control. Lots of 3-5 stack fights.
Wednesday, the world went to hell - fewer quality raiders meant a dramatic escalation in wipe rates and general fail attitudes. I quit out of frustration. Poked tentatively through Thursday and Friday and could not handle the rampant stupidity. Every bad player was sporting a "honey badger don't give a ####" attitude whenever corrections were suggested to deal with encounter mechanics (politely suggested, mind you). 8-10 stacks of determination were common.
By Monday, most of the terribads seem to have either rotated through or heard that LFR was now too hard for them, because quality started to swing back up noticably. Back down to one-shots and occasional 2-3 stacks.
I'm interested (and dreading) finding out how things are going to go today with the new reset.
rather there will be four groups of raider: primarily LFR raider, Primarily Flex raider, Primarily Normal raider and Primarily raiders. with players of all groups occasionally bleeding into their adjacent groups. i think all four niches can co-exist.
When someone asks you if you're a god, YOU SAY 'YES'!
Well 1 is sure Nazgrim and shamans needs nerf
For nazgrim that only can be rage cap because the only reason to wipe on this encounter is because your room get filled with wirl axes that its a fact, remove this ability and boss will be fine
Shamans the most deadly thing for me was bloobs i dint die by the wall i dint die by tornadoes but for 3 tryes almost all your melee dies because of the insane damage of these
I even dint want to think how aful will be LFR when they open next wings and raid meet with spoils klaxxi malkrok and garrosh
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When someone asks you if you're a god, YOU SAY 'YES'!
LFR is as is now not because of Flex.
Main problem is one-shot mechanics + tight enrage. One could think that Blizzard would learn from past mistakes of putting such things into full pug environment like LFR. But no - there is abuse of tight (for LFR) enrage timers with tons of 1-shot mechanics. In the past it was only Elegon and Durumu. In SoO it is everywhere.
Though I must admit that people in LFR became worse in general, main problems lies in what I wrote above.
And Blizzard must do something extremely fast, right this day/week or something, as it has gigantic domino-effect. Queues become longer each passing day as people just leave in frustration and don't want to spend 5 hours in one LFR after hour+ queue. The longer Blizzard waits with it, the more harm will be done.
"There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
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I have yet to see the first boss in SoO. Always put in on 2nd boss wipe fests. Which turn into waiting for new people to come in after 1 wipe. SO pull, wipe 3 people drop wait 10 min to replace, in that 10 min 3 more people drop. 90 min later I give up and log out, I have yet to finish the first wing. I am going to try in earnest today but I do not have much hope. I have canceled my sub over this, LFR is all I get to do for raiding and I cannot even do that because of how it is going now.