It's early weeks of new content. It's always fairly bad until people get their heads around the scant few mechanics you *have* to pay attention to.
In time people will learn the tactics, but I doubt it will be as good as it was in ToT. The main reason for this is Flex. LFR was previously held together by normal mode raiders (and the occasional bored heroic raiders). They weren't always the majority in a group, but they didn't need to be. Now those people are in Flex. They're not coming back.
Flex is the LFR that many people wanted it to be. Something they could do fairly simply on alts, or with friends who couldn't do normal modes. LFR still has a place for those who cannot raid at a fixed time each week, but with OpenRaid and Flex, even that can be done for all but the most unsociable hours of the day.
Kill banners/totems->adds->boss and don't stand in stuff. On top of that don't dps him while he's in defensive stance. That's all. He's really really not hard.
Problem is people don't know the fight very well yet.
This thread was up with ToT and the previous tier too. People whine endlessly in the beginning. If they can't handle dying, they should just wait to a month later when everybody is just as awesome as them. Tbh the people complaining the most are usually the worst players. Those doing crap dps, standing in fire and overall not knowing the encounter.
Shamans is by far the boss i had most trouble completing in the lfr, but it's not a problem either. Unlike a lot of people here i know it gets better when people learn the fights.
I don't even believe the one saying he got into 7 uncompleted lfrs in row. If you complete one that is in progress, then you're far more likely to get into a fresh one next time. Now if you just go "fuck this i quit" and leaves without finishing it, then nothing changes, AND you inconvinienced other people, which most here is all about... people not inconvinieng them :P
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Advantage to being a tank is that you're in a very good position to get assholes like you kicked ^^
Everyone has so much to say
They talk talk talk their lives away
That all said, I will NOT be doing any LFR this patch. Don't need to. Got flex now.
Went into LFR Wing 2 and Wing 1 with two chars today. One single wipe.
Doesn't seem too bad tbh. If a lot of "real" raiders stopped doing LFR, their absence obviously isn't really a problem.
I did the second wing of LFR SoO yesterday, and one-shot the first three bosses, and wiped to Nazgrim at 3% due to enrage, killing him the next attempt. Was not a guild group. It can happen.
Had 2 fully timeless equipped chars after the first week. However, most of the items I got are quite poorly itemized, so a lot of LFR stuff still should be better :|
BTW: I've found the Death Adders have a fairly high drop rate for BoEts. I think they upped the drop rate from non-rare mobs recently.
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"There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
"Almost every time I have gotten to know a critic personally, they keep up with the criticism but lose the venom." -- Ghostcrawler
"Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must first be overcome." -- Samuel Johnson
To be fair, I agree that Part2 is pretty rough at the moment. But that's not because it is too difficult.
It's just that everybody is used to brainafk (or just afk) and just focuses on killing everything that is attackable.
Give it a few weeks and players will start to actually think (i have faith in humanity).
Because if they don't, they will just not succeed or they'll get carryed.
imo lfr was the worst thing they've implemented yet.
Now they're trying to prevent this from happening.
We will see how it turns out.
I am finding that less and less fights allow you to be afk in LFR. Dark Shaman is a good example, even though I told the group everything they needed to stay out of the tanks still seemed to think they could just tank and spank in the slimes, the red circle and drag the bosses and the melee dps through the lines of elementals.
We had a tank that pulled while the second had yet to load into the dungeon locking him out, both quit, the tank left out complained something about not getting a tanking bag now and quit, then we had 2 tanks that decided to pull without finishing the trash, then 2 replacements who almost pulled the bosses before finishing the last 5 groups of trash, then we got 2 tanks who decided to tank and spank, then finally 2 tanks who knew what to do.
So far I have done most of my LFRs without any guildies. All of them went rather smooth tho not without wipe. Just maybe I actually tried put some effort to explain the tactics myself. Everyone listened and if something went wrong we were able to resolve the issue before next pull.
So either I am extremly lucky or some of you simply don't want to put the effort to make the group work. I believe that 99% of groups are capable of killing any boss in SoO LFR with no big deal if only someone takes some time to explain stuff. You know, heroic guilds also wipe on stuff that they see for the first time (even after knowing the mechanics from journal) unless they overgear particular boss. The key to good LFR is patience - especially at the point when the content is fresh. I've never been in an LFR that I couldn't influence somehow to make it work better. So maybe it's not the problem with content or other people but you...