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    People upgrading their gear without valor?

    Hello mmo-champ, my math could be off so i thought i should ask your opinion and help.

    - So upgrading your gear is 250 valor per 1, 500 for 2/2.
    - You have a valor cap of 3000.
    - Patch 5.4 released on 11 Sep in EU.
    - Heroic gear was obtainable in 18 Sep in EU.

    So in order to upgrade a total of 12 items you would need 6000 valor points. The thing is how is that possible as of today?
    Lets assume people had the 3k cap at release, and capped every week, it makes 6k total but still, you wouldnt have heroic gear at that time to upgrade so you are kept at cap, leaving you with total 5000 usable valor points for upgrades.

    As i said my math could be off but looking at http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Noxe/advanced it was weird for me.

    Would apreciate the clarification for it.

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    There is a trick of using the game mechanics for your advantage.

    Example: You got 3k valor, buy 3 items of 1000 each, you have 0 valor left. Do quests, cap the valor, you`ll have 1k valor. Then you can refund 1 of the item and buy it again. This way you got 4k valor stocked in items that you can refund/buy again so they won't expire. Next week do cap again, repeat the process get infinite valor. People started doing that 2 months before 5.4 hit.

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    this is the 3rd reset of 5.4 so if he was capped the week prior to 5.4 he has a total of 6000 valor which he has 12 fully upgraded items so it all works out, patch came out 11th so it reset then, the 18th and this week on the 25th, all he needed to do was spend at least 1k valor on upgrades and also he probably got lucky with drops.

  4. #4
    Some of his gear is from previous patch, ie heroic thunderforged. He only has 7 New Heroic items which equals to 3,500 valor.

  5. #5
    the thing is he upgraded heroic gear and this is the 2nd heroic reset, leaving with a total of 5k total valor obtainable. Nightswiftys explanation was a little bit possible but still, can you cap valor, buy an item for 1k valor, recap, and sell the item over the valor cap? Because im pretty sure the refund time will be gone as he is going for a world 1st hc garrosh.
    Even if it is possible would it be considered clever use of mechanics or straight up exploit?

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    Week 1 Sept 10-16
    Get loot, spend 3000 (6 items)
    Get/spend 1000 vp (8 items total)

    Week 2 Sept 17-23
    Get/spend 1000 vp (10 items total)

    Week 3 Sept 24-31 (Now)
    Get/spend 1000 vp (12 items total)

    You're probably missing the fact that he probably got a bunch of loot the first week, earned no valor, upgraded 6 items, and THEN earned another 1000 valor that week, effectively allowing him to spend 4000 in one week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    Week 1 Sept 10-16
    Get loot, spend 3000 (6 items)
    Get/spend 1000 vp (8 items total)

    Week 2 Sept 17-23
    Get/spend 1000 vp (10 items total)

    Week 3 Sept 24-31 (Now)
    Get/spend 1000 vp (12 items total)

    You're probably missing the fact that he probably got a bunch of loot the first week, earned no valor, upgraded 6 items, and THEN earned another 1000 valor that week, effectively allowing him to spend 4000 in one week.
    yes but the thing is he has full heroic gear expect 2 items, which werent avaible the first week of upgrades.

  8. #8
    also, the legendary cloak is instantly upgraded when you get it

  9. #9
    the ring and trinket aren't hc. neither is the belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shajaam View Post
    yes but the thing is he has full heroic gear expect 2 items, which werent avaible the first week of upgrades.
    You do realise some of that heroic gear is from the last tier right?

    in any case it's possible to have spent up to 6k valor at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shajaam View Post
    yes but the thing is he has full heroic gear expect 2 items, which werent avaible the first week of upgrades.
    He has 7 fully upgraded heroic items from the current tier plus 5 fully upgraded non-heroic items from the current tier. This is possible even without the trick that was described by Nightswifty.

    First week (3000+1000)-5*500=1500
    Second week (1500+1000)-5*500=0
    Third week (0+1000)-2*500=0

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