Odd Shadowcraft Results - Question

[Prag]

Hey all,

I input my character (Armory Here) into Shadowcraft (after clearing cache and making sure it was on 5.4 engine). These are the results:

Agility 2.707
Yellow Hit 1.460
Strength 1.050
Attack Power 1.000
Expertise 0.964
Crit 0.956
Mastery 0.921
Haste 0.891
Hit 0.544
Mainhand Dps 3.174
Offhand Dps 0.742
Mh Expertise 0.745
Oh Expertise 0.220
T16 2pc 1449.033
T14 4pc 975.414
T14 2pc 957.626
T15 2pc 660.014
T16 4pc 596.896
T15 4pc 388.420

After reading through a few threads, I was under the impression that Crit would only be favored after I got 2pT16. Did I misunderstand that or is it more likely that I've fubar'd the Shadowcraft settings?

Thanks all!

[Maelstrom51]

Your base stats are so incredibly low that current theorycrafting standards (stuff like "mastery > haste > crit until X") doesn't really apply to you.

[Prag]

Your base stats are so incredibly low that current theorycrafting doesn't really apply to you.

Alright. I'll stick with the Mastery > Haste > Crit profile. Thanks.

[jsz]

Alright. I'll stick with the Mastery > Haste > Crit profile. Thanks.

Definitely best for your level of gear. You're also way over hit cap and under on expertise.

[Prag]

Definitely best for your level of gear. You're also way over hit cap and under on expertise.

Awesome, thanks!

[Kael]

I'm not 100% sure the ShadowCraft results are irrelevant (modern theorycrafting for 550+ ilevel is, of course). They are WEIRD results for your ilevel, but here are the greatest factors I'd consider for your character relative to what we saw at the time we were in <500 gear:

-Buffed Dispatch.
-MH weapon is 30(!) ilevels over character average (which is additionally being propped up by a low-weight trinket - closer to 32 ilevels accounting for that).

The second point in particular is going to strongly skew the results against mastery. I'd run it again after getting to the expertise cap; if you're still seeing crit > mastery > haste, you could compare to SimC results if you're really into it, but I wouldn't discount those results just yet. That said, your stat weights will likely change (rapidly) if your stats change rapidly.

If you want to gear for when you're in 515 gear, assuming the same weapons: yeah, go ahead and gem/enchant/reforge closer to mastery > haste=crit. Haste will pull ahead if you get legendary items for your rogue, and crit will pull ahead if you get the T16 2p.

[Fluorescent0]

Your base stats are so incredibly low that current theorycrafting doesn't really apply to you.

Shadowcraft used fixed formulas completely unrelated to any gear existing except the one you're wearing, and his low amount of gear does not impact the outcome. Other factors, such as the ones mentioned by Kael, do and are the cause of these results. Three's nothing currently modeled in shadowcraft that only applies a certain itemlevel, and it'd be better if you stopped spreading misinformation around.

Indeed fixed stat priorities should instead not be considered as they happen to be calculated for certain specific gearsets.

[Maelstrom51]

Shadowcraft used fixed formulas completely unrelated to any gear existing except the one you're wearing, and his low amount of gear does not impact the outcome. Other factors, such as the ones mentioned by Kael, do and are the cause of these results. Three's nothing currently modeled in shadowcraft that only applies a certain itemlevel, and it'd be better if you stopped spreading misinformation around.

Never said our tools are not working for his gear, just that theorycrafting results (stuff like "mastery > haste > crit until X") don't apply to him.

[Fluorescent0]

Never said our tools are not working for his gear, just that theorycrafting results (stuff like "mastery > haste > crit until X") don't apply to him.

Got misunderstood by quite a few people then, I guess editing it to make it clearer should be better for anyone who happens to read this.

[Maelstrom51]

I'll do the same with my original post.