you're just incredibly ignorant tbh..
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wth don't you get about this? They killed a boss that is the same as West 10m version , with much better 25m gear that they have compared to EU/US.Hardly. They had a huge ilevel advantage on a boss that is at the same difficulty as the one in the west. Maybe if they weren't playing a different version where 10/25 don't share a lock out Id give it to them. But like Chaud said, they are not included in the world first because their 10man version is not buffed, therefore they killed the same boss everyone else is fighting with gear no one else can get because no one else has separate lock outs.
As far as WF's go, Asia does not exist.
If they released WoW Australia and Australians had a 4000% damage buff would you consider them for world firsts on bosses? Cannot believe there are people on this forum who would. It's a completely different race when one competitor has a huge advantage like Asia has on EU/US. No one is saying they shouldn't have used their advantage, it's just that no one cares about them killing the same boss on a different game.
Exactly. If it were reversed and EU/US had double lockouts and asia didn't and a EU/US guild got world first you wouldn't see these people saying, "Sorry, doesn't count, they had an advantage, we need to wait for an asian guild for it to be counted". They're just fanboys who are crying cause their "team" didn't win.
Ok, let me put it another way. In order for any top raider to get NEAR their ilevel 575 lock even, they would need a Full set of warforged heroic 2/2upgraded gear. Our heroic gear is 566>Hwarforged569>1/2Hwarforged 573>2/2Hwarforged575. No one can get anywhere Near that close for awhile yet.
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Except its not just a lock out advantage. Its a they can get Much higher ilevel then an eu/us guild as well to fight a boss that is at the same difficulty.
world 1st lol let the insanity begin, incoming shit storm.
I'm gonna let 'em know that Dolemite is back on the scene! I'm gonna let 'em know that Dolemite is my name, and fuckin' up motherfuckers is my game!
If we want to talk about fair. Is it fair that Australians have horrible pings? Should EU/US guilds not count cause they have an advantage over Australian guilds? I mean they're playing the game on easy mode with their awesome latency. The US gets an extra day head start every week! Is that fair? No. So where do you draw the line? Some countries have more internet coverage, which gives them a better recruitment pool. Is that fair? Life isn't fair, get over it.
Still waiting the true WoW world first.
The game in Asia in not WoW, it's only a mod with cheats. Deal with that.
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And I guarantee you if it were between this asian guild, and a guild like Paragon, and Paragon had access to higher ilvl gear you would be crying. That's how things work. The typical guilds get the hate, the underdogs get the love. It has nothing at all to do with anything other than that. There is a simple thing that puts them in another race. They have access to gear that isn't available to anyone else but them. And they couldn't beat the version of the boss tuned for their gear, so they took the easy way out. That's just the facts. They needed a crutch to do it.
Seriously, we shouldn't be the ones to whine since none of us probably ain't in the top guilds.
So who cares that they're different down made by different people ?
If it bothers top guolds then they should be the one to complain to Blizzard.
Blizzard never made any rank in pve, PUG did.
Well by definition this is a world first but for a game that Blizzard made for Asia people.
The game that US/EU guilds play is not the same(even though it has the same name) so the world first race for it is still on!
Right. My point though is overgearing an encounter makes so many things trivial, so I dont get why people are impressed. Its like taking a group now to go become the "world first 5-man" of a previous tier, grats that you did it but there are tons of other people who could do it too with an overgeared item level.