Volun-told - A supposedly optional event, award, assignment, or activity in which a person (or persons) are required to attend either by persons-in-charge nominating them or their peers expecting them to be there. The individual often has no say in the matter, and non-attendance in frowned upon.
I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.
Probably just all comes down to benefits, in Europe you can survive quite easily without a job for at least a little while, and jobs tend to give you enough money to save up a little. That on-top of quite good laws regarding holidays means you can sustain the life style much easier.
for example i work 65h/w on average and it's pretty common to go above 50
this is a graph with the average annual hours of different countries (and i bet there are a lot of unreported hours to add on a lot of EU countries)
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Reporting thread for close since, provided accuracy (I didn't check), Firefly crushed this very general little question:
on the first page. Good show. Take the week off, everybody. You earned it with all of this off-topic vacation talk! You're like American Congress!Why is there such a disparity in guild success...
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37 hours per week is the standard in Denmark and only people who work in the private sector, will work upwards 50 hours. But that's the people making the really good money though and they're not likely to be your average gamer in the first place.
Students get paid to study, they don't pay as they do in the US. So even though you won't have a lot of money while studying, you can still manage without a job. Granted, most students do have a student job but they still have a lot more time on their hands.
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Euros are the Ubermensch. Being the greatest at everything just comes naturally to 'em.
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I would be interested in seeing some real data about the average player age of the top 100 guilds in both U.S. and Europe. My impression is that it would skew a bit older in EU which might have an effect on guild stability as well as how well the guild works together and everything that comes out of that. It may be nothing at all but it's something that might be enlightening.
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You are looking to far into this.
There are more hardcore raiders in EU because Northern Europe is a place where you stay indoors for the majority of the year, in door activities are preferred over going out, whose to blame them? Its - all the time, raining and snowing non-stop in some cases.
I am from Greece where we have a normal weather..Warm Spring/Hot summer/Rainy-Cold Autumn/Cold Winter, i went to Sweden for 10 days, it was literally raining for 10 days non-stop while snowing sometimes in between and slowing down now and then but it was raining NON-STOP.
Who would want to be outside when it god damn rains 24/7 or snows?
There is a reason most top guilds are Scandinavian/German/Russian populated its because they stay inside a lot, they look at games as main to only activity and they are just good at them.
Stop saying people work less, this is such false information, god knows from where people get them.
Not all Americans work as long, not all Europeans work as long, minimum work hours in Greece is 40 hours for a full job, no students and similar bullshit jobs.. and for the last 3-5 years it has been over 50 cause people hire people with the logic "We know you are desperate, either you work extra hours or we find someone else".
Saying "Europeans" work less is dumb, North Europe is too cold for outdoor activities therefor people stay inside and play games, they dedicate a lot of time and become really dedicated/good at them.
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I think there are just better options out there in terms of gaming. Consoles especially are a lot more socially acceptable here than the pc gaming stigma of living in moms basements and raiding 15 hours a day.
ok that's the last .
but i think the average wouldn't be more then a year or 2 difference on average if that, but none the less i wouldn't mind seeing some real data on that. might be kind of neat.
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As a state worker in Spain, i work the requisite 40 (forty, not 21) hours per week, plus weekend shifts and, i get to enjoy 22 (which is roughly 3 weeks, not quite 12) days off work. Still many of us do raid in competitive (or casual, as its my case) guilds. It's just a matter of personal choice on what you want to invest your free time.
OT: Why are there less US guilds? less population, probably not really into competition where no reward is available...or maybe it's just that the average gamer differs from one continent to the other ("child's stuff")