Hunter AOE on Spoils Fight [Log Analysis] HELP

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Hey guys, We have a reasonably well geared hunter in our team who does excellent dps, but feel with his gear he could be pushing more AOE damage out on the spoils fight.

Logs for the spoils attempts we have had:

His DPS compared to everyone else: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...ses&boss=71889

His move priority: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...ses&boss=71889


Any help/ Criticism is much appreciated, thanks!

[Perrito]

Hey guys, We have a reasonably well geared hunter in our team who does excellent dps, but feel with his gear he could be pushing more AOE damage out on the spoils fight.

Logs for the spoils attempts we have had:

His DPS compared to everyone else: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...ses&boss=71889

His move priority: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...ses&boss=71889


Any help/ Criticism is much appreciated, thanks!

are this logs made by him or a person on the same room?

you know you cant see the damage on dif room?

on a 4 min 29 sec fight he should have more tan 31 explosive shots. 44 is the max allowed without taking into account LnL procs.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=4400&e=4669
cant really judge this fight tbh because you may or may not delay an es for more multishots depending how many targets.

what kind of strat are you trying to use?

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are this logs made by him or a person on the same room?

Are you 100% sure about that?
We pretty much got spoils heroic down and I'm not happy about my own position in our logs. I wasn't able to figure out if our logger in the different area was able to fully log everything in our room or if I'm just not doing as well as I want to do.

[Drairon]

Are you 100% sure about that?

On Jikun I know there was 'range' issues because of platforms... But I'm pretty sure that the max range combatlog records is 150yards(in all axis)

I 'dont' think the spoils end to end is more than 150yards.(At least in 10m, 25m room might be bigger?)

[Knyphyn]

Ive had varying logs results - one week it recorded everyone properly but another week it was highly inaccurate.

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On Jikun I know there was 'range' issues because of platforms... But I'm pretty sure that the max range combatlog records is 150yards(in all axis)

That's what I thought as well, I can't imagine there being range issues on spoils because the room shouldn't be that large. Then again, you can hero in one room without it effecting the other room so there might be some sort of ''block'' somewhere.

(At least in 10m, 25m room might be bigger?)

That's been a bit of a running joke over here, no the room isn't bigger on 25 man unfortunately

[Poppincaps]

Are you 100% sure about that?
We pretty much got spoils heroic down and I'm not happy about my own position in our logs. I wasn't able to figure out if our logger in the different area was able to fully log everything in our room or if I'm just not doing as well as I want to do.

It definitely has something to do with the logs. I was at 212k last night and all the rest of my team was 140k or lower. I'm usually on top, but I don't beat out our rogue and boomkin that badly normally. I just concluded that it must've been range issues.

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Hey guys, We have a reasonably well geared hunter in our team who does excellent dps, but feel with his gear he could be pushing more AOE damage out on the spoils fight.

Logs for the spoils attempts we have had:

His DPS compared to everyone else: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...ses&boss=71889

His move priority: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...ses&boss=71889


Any help/ Criticism is much appreciated, thanks!

On topic: He shouldn't be using Murder of Crows. For my team at least none of the mobs last long enough except for the ones in the massive crates, and even those die pretty quickly.

Also, the rate at which you open the boxes can also have a big impact on dps. Make sure you always have 2-3 boxes open at a time. I had an attempt where I had to wait for a box to be opened several times and my dps was 40k lower than all of my other attempts.

[Deleted]

Excellent advice thanks, I'm a MW monk healer running the logs so if range was possibly an issue then that may contribute. However your tweaks and tips will help. Thanks again!

In terms of our strat were pretty much keeping 2-3 boxes open starting with 2 monks then a big crate and moving on from there. However one of our teams seems to be a lot more successful than the other at clearing the adds in time.

[Drairon]

Looking over logs I did find an odd things:

There were moments when he wasn't attacking anything for 6-10seconds. Don't know if it was because nothing was up(Boxes were being opened to slow); he afk'd for a few seconds, or logs didn't record were out of ranged during those times.



The Shaman had the highest DPS; he was in the room with the Hunter. Both of them were in the opposite room as the person recording.

[Arhippa]

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/2...e/?s=221&e=775
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/c.../?s=631&e=1184

Same fight logged by 2 different people from different sides. Don't know about the rest of you, but I think I can see some minor differences.

[Perrito]

Excellent advice thanks, I'm a MW monk healer running the logs so if range was possibly an issue then that may contribute. However your tweaks and tips will help. Thanks again!

In terms of our strat were pretty much keeping 2-3 boxes open starting with 2 monks then a big crate and moving on from there. However one of our teams seems to be a lot more successful than the other at clearing the adds in time.

next time do this.

open both Green at start. send the hunter with disengage to the further one away while the tank get the close one. kill those Green boxes after that pot a big box with 1-2 médium and they should always be cleaving.

1 thing you gota notice here. hunter dps is based around cleaving mobs so if you have him focusing stuff and the tank is moving the cleave mobs away from him he may not be able to cleave properlly.

check the logs again but im 100% sure you will not record well on that fight, at least skada for us is all over the place same with logs depending how both groups move you may see somthing isnt there.

if the tank isnt positioning mobs well the hunter wont be able to do crap. this is a big deal, always threat your hunters as melee because we are pretty much a ranged rogué and our mechanics work as melee not as a proper range class.

i will recomend him to spec into fervor, AMoC for big adds only, glaive toss. if he position himself well he wont need blink strikes (wich sometimes bug the pet on crates and reason number 1 i dont do BM on this fight even tho last week i did BM) and barrage. glaive toss is really good for single target and not everything in this fight is aoe. at least not in 10 man, is more a controled cleave what we do.

make sure anyone click on both buffs, it dosnt matter who click them everyone get them.

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http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/2...e/?s=221&e=775
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/c.../?s=631&e=1184

Same fight logged by 2 different people from different sides. Don't know about the rest of you, but I think I can see some minor differences.

lol 50k dps is a lot. and where is the other warrior on 2nd log.

yeah u gota be carefull with logs on this fight.

same happen on immersius, norushen, sha of pride. heck even galakras if you doing towers. off course heroic mechanics only in sha of pride, pacman room