Thread: SoO LFR nerfed.

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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    Fanboys will defend everything.

    Last week, they insist that Blizzard will not nerf.
    The fight is "perfectly" tuned.
    And MMO-C whiners will find anything to whine about. It's LFR and he only reason people bitch is because it gives them something new to bitch about.
    Stating an opinion as fact does not make it fact. Opinions are not fact. So don't be stupid and make a fool of yourself by trying to pass off your opinion as fact.

  2. #122
    I'm staying away from LFR. I stick to normals and flex. Last time I gave SoO LFR a try my group spent more time wiping on a boss than I did my first time doing the same boss on normal.

  3. #123
    Most people who play LFR do not play it for challenge or fufillment. They play it to see all the content and get easy loot.

    Who cares how easy LFR is, nobody takes it seriously. Make all the bosses have 1 HP for all I care, it'd be pretty much the exact same thing.

  4. #124
    They should design LFR properly and it wont ever need to be nerfed.
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  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    Fanboys will defend everything.

    Last week, they insist that Blizzard will not nerf.
    The fight is "perfectly" tuned.
    If you must bring up the fanboy argument, then that means you have nothing constructive or valid to say.
    LFR is going to have people with no prior raid experience, those otherwise eliminated from raiding completely by arrogant leadership, the very sort of behaviour you are demonstrating just here.

    When are people going to get their experience, their skills in raiding when nobody will take them ?
    When nobody will give them that opportunity to get their foot in the door and learn through both experience and by talking people who know their stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaqwert View Post
    Most people who play LFR do not play it for challenge or fufillment. They play it to see all the content and get easy loot.

    Who cares how easy LFR is, nobody takes it seriously. Make all the bosses have 1 HP for all I care, it'd be pretty much the exact same thing.
    Stupid attitude, and the reason why people are stuck in LFR.

  6. #126
    Nobody is "stuck" in LFR.

    You make it out like there is this huge group of people in LFR trying to move up.

    These people are mostly imaginary, we need to stop discussing them.

    Most LFR players are completely happy with LFR and have no aspirations for anything more.

    Just give them what they want, an interactive youtube video with loot drops.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Celticmoon View Post
    Wavebinger Kardris' Falling Ash now deals 200,000 Fire damage (down from 999,999).
    YAY, maybe people will stop CRing into falling ash with only a few seconds left now... or if they keep doing it it wont kill people anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaqwert View Post
    Just give them what they want, an interactive youtube video with loot drops.
    A very pessimistic view of LFR which is not entirely accurate. Just because some players experience the game this way does not mean all people do. Plenty of hardcore raiders will queue up with mates and smash bosses and chill out on vent/mumble/skype with their friends and talk shoot the breeze and generally try to have fun.
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  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Celticmoon View Post
    It seems a few of the bosses in SoO LFR have been nerfed. Was this the right move, or should they just of left it alone? Are you happy or angry about it?
    Why do a post drive-by and leave without giving any opinion? Instead of just quoting patch notes, why not leave your opinion as the starting point for discussion instead of demanding it from others? Oh right because you'd have to defend your position?

    Nerf it into the ground.

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Aliessil View Post
    Given the gear entry level is currently 496, either LFR needed nerfing or the entry requirement needed raising.
    There are players doing 30-60k dps in SoO LFR. You can up the ilvl requirement to 515 but that is not going to change a thing. There are also plenty of players with 500+ ilvl in there especially with Loot Isle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoshne View Post
    A very pessimistic view of LFR which is not entirely accurate. Just because some players experience the game this way does not mean all people do. Plenty of hardcore raiders will queue up with mates and smash bosses and chill out on vent/mumble/skype with their friends and talk shoot the breeze and generally try to have fun.
    Those players are all in Flex now. And that is where they should be.

  11. #131
    Until there is a way to have some standards in LFR, you absolutely HAVE to design the content in LFR for the lowest common denominator that makes up the bulk of the mouth breathers who do LFR. I only slogged through that mess once on an alt and there were people laying into nazgrim in defensive stance, people who ignored adds completely, people who just stand in the ravagers and leap-fire-shit and one of the worst offenses are retarded tanks who don't tank swap and get to 10+ stacks of sunder filling up his entire rage pool in two hits.

    I absolutely hate LFR since it gives a free ride to idiots to gear out their characters in decent gear, but since it does exist, and it's a convenient way to gear up alts who can't be on dedicated raid teams, it needs to be as easy as possible to save the few decent players who go in there for various reasons from wanting to kill themselves wiping to easy shit 5 times in a row before your average LFRer starts to get basic mechanics through their very thick skulls.

    Rather do away with LFR, but since it exists, keep it easy.
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    They should of kept them the way they are just so players start pulling their finger our of their arse and actually socialise and do flex.

    Sick of casuals pulling the "No time to raid" card. If you have no time, why are you even playing the game?
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  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Untangled View Post
    Sick of casuals pulling the "No time to raid" card. If you have no time, why are you even playing the game?
    Why are you so ignorant about this? Do you think I have nothing to do? I have plenty of things to do, because WoW isn't the only thing I'm doing at evenings.
    I cannot raid at 20:00 to 24:00(which is usually time when guild are doing raid).
    I have time to play the game at the weekend and sometimes from 21:00-24:00 it really depends of the situation.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Why are you so ignorant about this? Do you think I have nothing to do? I have plenty of things to do, because WoW isn't the only thing I'm doing at evenings.
    I cannot raid at 20:00 to 24:00(which is usually time when guild are doing raid).
    I have time to play the game at the weekend and sometimes from 21:00-24:00 it really depends of the situation.
    That was the excuse pre-5.4 Now with (cross-realm) flex there is nothing keeping you away from a decent (and actually fun) raid.
    You can even try to form a big guild flex raid on weekends. Our guild did that and with even half the group raiders+half casuals we have a breeze clearing it.

  15. #135
    People just don't want to organize and schedule. It has nothing to do with having time. So saying you don't have time is a poor excuse/argument with Flex being available now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untangled View Post
    They should of kept them the way they are just so players start pulling their finger our of their arse and actually socialise and do flex.

    Sick of casuals pulling the "No time to raid" card. If you have no time, why are you even playing the game?
    Sick of people lumping all casuals with the same attitude. Not all "casuals" are happy to see content nerfed.
    As a busy mum, i'm lucky if I get 40 minutes uninterrupted, let alone between 1-2 hrs to clear a wing in flex. Time IS an issue for me.
    Theres so much more to the game than just raiding (speaking as an ex-heroic25 raider too) so I find it incredibly narrow minded of you to question peoples motives for playing based on available time

  17. #137
    It's kinda sad that they made Falling Ash a non-lethal ability. It's a big glowing red circle that takes ~10 seconds to fire up, if you die to that you f*cking had it coming.

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by honj90 View Post
    That was the excuse pre-5.4 Now with (cross-realm) flex there is nothing keeping you away from a decent (and actually fun) raid.
    You can even try to form a big guild flex raid on weekends. Our guild did that and with even half the group raiders+half casuals we have a breeze clearing it.
    LFR is still much more convenient (and popular) than Flex.

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by D4NNYB0Y View Post
    LFR is still much more convenient (and popular) than Flex.
    But much less challenging and entertaining. And often even takes longer than flex. Cross-realm groups and the tools to form the exist. LFR is only convenient for afk-ers, bots and terrible players (with some few exceptions)

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    Quote Originally Posted by phelioz View Post
    Think I'll start doing Flex... Yes, LFR is *super duper* easy to get in, and you depend on no one to join the group... That's why I did LFR: I could login everytime I wanted, and do it every time I needed... I didn't do LFR because it was easy... In fact, all these nerfs annoy me...

    We need Hard content for Casual players XD
    Some of us casuals like difficult content, we just don't have the time to be part of a raiding team :P Maybe flex allow more... flexibility :P
    This :>
    Cba joinning a raiding guild (Although I joined one this week) the only reason why I'm doing LFR is cause I can do it anytime I want

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