Sorry to be going off topic again (last one i promise)
but akraen, im IN love with you.
also i suppose since i cleared cms gold as frost in full crit gear, i can try reforge plots with current gear and go frost, thanks again akraen baby xoxoxoxo
EDIT: god bless you Methusula!
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IF I can get to 15832 haste, SHOULD I?
I'm thinking yes because I am using frost bomb/nt a lot more... but I always figure I should ask
Hi there... a quick question (sorry if it's been asked already). From what I understood, 14242 is the haste breakpoint we're supposed to get... right now (with just frost armor) my haste (i'm a gnome mage) says:
Haste: +41.40% (haste 13662 +32.15%)
With raid buffs, is that enough to hit 14.242? Thank you!
If you have 13662 rating, that never changes. So when we say to go for 14242, that's what we mean. Raid buffs only add percentages, and the goal here is 50% raid buffed. So you're still a bit short of it. It's not so much a breakpoint because breakpoints are for ticks of bombs, which are notably at 9577, 12684 (NT), and 18967/19347 (a big one). 14242 is a soft-cap, so it's ok to be +/-, it's just a point in which the relative value of mastery beats out haste unless you reach often impossible snapshotting/uptime/APM.
Do you think it's worth the trade off or should I stick with the stats I got now?
Thank you a lot!
is there a bis frost gear list anywhere? im not sure how reliable the icyveins one is.
This is the BiS list for frost. I can't remember the names of items so I just wrote where they're from.
Chest: Fallen Protectors
Ring 1: Thok
Ring 2: Galakras
Trinket 1: Shamans
Trinket 2: Immerseus
Weapon doesn't really matter just get the first 580 that drops
Every good story has an ending.
I got impatient waiting for wowhead and AMR to update. So I made my own view of how things will look in 5.4.8
I'll be able to go for 28k breakpoint actually. I just need to switch to Blacksmithing, grab Galakras' ring, either pair of haste bracers, and switch my boots to my HWF Sha Sandals (already have).
The mere thought of actually going for 28k haste makes me laugh out loud
Every good story has an ending.
Not saying I recommend anyone else do it.
I just want to see :P
Pretty sure arcane is gonna stomp over anything any frost or fire build will be able to do at 588, anyway. Might as well just have fun until WoD.
With the availability of a 588 Purified Bindings, would you say that a Crit/Haste build is potentially even more viable than it was previously?
Honestly, I can't get below 28% Crit right now anyway in my gear, but I'm wondering if it could become something worthwhile to actually shoot for with the huge damage bonus.
Haste/Crit or Mastery/Crit. Either way, with 588 amplification you're going to want crit past shatter cap.
It's not ironed out yet but there will be two weird points where frost "breaks"
Extreme mastery, >105% or so, where you no longer use FoF-IceLance. Just don't bother with it.
Extreme haste, either just during unglyphed IV+meta+heroism, or if you reach true maximum haste meta+hero, where you can just spam frost bomb and FFB.
Either way, we are able to get to a point where FFB gets below the gcd in a pure haste build. That has some prospect.
Hey everyone, I just returned on Sunday after a year long break. I have just completed LFR but am just looking for a shove in the right direction I suppose. I went with the 12684 haste break point as I am still getting comfortable playing again but can easily reach the 14242 break point as well. Keep farming LFR? At the moment i don't have access to a permanent raiding spot...but did just finish the legendary cloak quest!!!
Thanks for any advice.
Sorry no logs as I just returned......