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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by Akutare View Post
    You could always get a decent voice changer and disguise your voice while in groups with randoms. It isn't an ideal situation, but if you just wanted to avoid being drawn into an uncomfortable place it could defer suspicion and help you maintain your privacy.
    Why should she have to pretend to be something shes not, this is ridiculous. Guys get over yourselves and the caveman attitudes, girls play video games and alot are better at pvp then you. OP the real issue here is boys try to puff themselves up and be big in front of their friends, when in reality they are uncomfortable around women, learn how to use it to your advantage because you'll run across plenty of neanderthals in life

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    Some of the best pvp'ers in the game are women and stream. So while your story may in fact be true, of the 3+ years that I've played and having gotten Hero of the Horde and done a LOT of rbg's and arena, I find your story hard to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saucywench View Post
    Why should she have to pretend to be something shes not, this is ridiculous. Guys get over yourselves and the caveman attitudes, girls play video games and alot are better at pvp then you. OP the real issue here is boys try to puff themselves up and be big in front of their friends, when in reality they are uncomfortable around women, learn how to use it to your advantage because you'll run across plenty of neanderthals in life
    This is pretty accurate

  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    However I've met thousands more awful guy players then girls. Funny how that works.
    I'm talking about semi-decent raidguilds not some random LFR players.

  5. #245
    Here's what's going on. With the anonymity of the internet, guys can say what they're always wanting to say anyways. They've just been trained like dogs to keep it bottled up inside because society is ashamed of it. No guy thinks a girl is their equal, except when mob mentality makes him think they''ll be punished for saying otherwise. I wish I had better news for you, but that's the reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangg View Post
    I'm talking about semi-decent raidguilds not some random LFR players.
    Right, and I'd say I've met quite a few great woman gamers, and quite a few meh ones.

    The same could be said for guys.

    But since there are more guys than girls playing the game (exact figures I am not aware of, but I am using some common sense on this one), than you're likely to run into more "meh" guys players, even IF the female meh players are more memorable because they're female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeedmySpeed View Post
    Whatever you do, keep your cool. Lashing back will make you look worse to them.

    I'd of said either:
    "Don't worry guys, I'm not here to argue sense into sexists. It's futile."

    And leave it at that. Don't flinch at any comment from there on forward.

    or, if you really can't deal with it:
    "This group will go nowhere with this attitude. Later shit for brains."

    Then leave and forget. Don't let them get a rise out of you if they continue to harass you.
    The "later shit for brains" part gives them the satisfaction that she was affected. Far better to mindfuck them.

    "I was hoping to join a competent group tonight, I guess I was wrong. Good luck" /leavegroup.

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    Abandon thread


    I can't post that in caps

  9. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by Immy View Post
    I just had the worst WoW experience of my life, after playing the game for 6+ years.

    I was invited to a 1800-2.2k rbg group by my friend. I do fear speaking in Skype with randoms as I've experienced sexism many times in pvp on WoW. They did a mic check, and I was hesitating on speaking, but in the end I spoke and they all found out that I was a girl. Now, I'm not low-rated or anything; I have Gladiator and am currently 2.1k rated and I do not expect to get carried by anyone. But the first thing they said upon finding out I was a girl was, "Oh, it's a girl. We're going to lose" "Don't want to carry some dumb bitch" and some mimicking of my voice ensued. And of course, I was very shocked and taken aback.

    This caused me to be completely quiet throughout the game and I ended up not paying attention to their calls. I missed their call on asking me to peel back from the flag and then all hell went loose. I had 3 people yelling at me calling me retarded, stupid and worst of all, "she's a girl she can't listen for shit". I had one of them whispering me calling me retarded and an idiot and I was trying to defend myself, saying that I accidentally wasn't listening because everyone was being so mean. I got kicked from the call and I promptly left the group in the middle of the bg.

    I really should have left at the first hint of sexism but I wanted so badly to prove them wrong, and only made things worse.

    This is the first pug rbg I've done and it's made me very afraid to do any more. Have any of you girls or guys out there had any experiences/witnessed something like this or was I just incredibly unlucky?
    Half my raid team are female and they outplay the men so fortunately for us all, theres very little "omg gurl" here. Whilst I'm not surprised by the reaction of your team (online gamers still have a little way to go in that regard ) I wouldn't take it as the only reaction you'll ever get.

    Having said that... PuG PvE is lame enough, PuG PvP is all a massive epeen fest mostly anyway; so probably the worst in-game environment for that behaviour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangg View Post
    I'm talking about semi-decent raidguilds not some random LFR players.
    You mean semi - decent being a Top 15 US guild that has cleared every single raid launched in the games history? I guess thats semi-decent. Yes more of our girl apps are more suited to recruitment then male apps. Why are there so many awful male gamers?

  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by tiporispit View Post
    Here's what's going on. With the anonymity of the internet, guys can say what they're always wanting to say anyways. They've just been trained like dogs to keep it bottled up inside because society is ashamed of it. No guy thinks a girl is their equal, except when mob mentality makes him think they''ll be punished for saying otherwise. I wish I had better news for you, but that's the reality.
    That bullshit, sorry ;p
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  12. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Naer View Post
    Right, and I'd say I've met quite a few great woman gamers, and quite a few meh ones.

    The same could be said for guys.

    But since there are more guys than girls playing the game (exact figures I am not aware of, but I am using some common sense on this one), than you're likely to run into more "meh" guys players, even IF the female meh players are more memorable because they're female.
    Hey....

    You're using logic...

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    She doesn't have to prove anything just because it's a girl/woman. She should play with normal people and not with idiots. Don't pug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPaladinGuy View Post
    Hey....

    You're using logic...
    Oh I'm not supposed to use that.

    I FORGOT I'M SORRY DON'T BURN ME AT THE STEAK

    oh crap now I'm using humor too. Please burn me at the steak, but at least let me have a bite first

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    bullshit imo, if u have glad and shits, then they know u're good

    2nd u fucked up and well ofc they gonna insult you/kick etc, happens in every rbg pug..
    "We live in a world where a style of play that uses posession and passing to try and make spaces is made fun of.
    While a style of play where a team sits back for 90 minutes and breaks away in 1v1 situations is respected."
    - Ronald Koeman.

  16. #256
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    You mean semi - decent being a Top 15 US guild that has cleared every single raid launched in the games history? I guess thats semi-decent. Yes more of our girl apps are more suited to recruitment then male apps. Why are there so many awful male gamers?
    I can't tell if you're serious.

    Look at the members of the best guilds in the world or great guilds, almost all male.

    Stop turning this into a male bashing thread, really, you're digressing the thread, you clearly have issues with men based on your anecdotal evidence.

    Significantly more males play this game than females, and there are significantly more top ranking male players and male players in general. That also means there are going to be more male asshats, some will be average, bad, or decent, but they're all male players, so the ratio is significantly larger.

    I'm not saying that to bash women, I'm just pointing out your incredibly flawed comparison.
    Last edited by MrPaladinGuy; 2013-10-08 at 04:45 PM.

  17. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by Grubjuice View Post
    this reminds me of the 'If Women ruled WoW"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqTvdz7mv7c
    BALLS OR GTFO!

    SHOW US YOUR BALLS!

    That made me laugh
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  18. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Girl to guy ratio in gaming is usually 25%/75% in my experiences. However I've met thousands more awful guy players then girls. Funny how that works.
    Well, yeah. Assume 70% of players are awful regardless of sex, 70% of 75% is more people than 70% of 25%. Basic mathematics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPaladinGuy View Post
    I can't tell if you're serious.

    Look at the members of the best guilds in the world or great guilds, almost all male.

    Stop turning this into a male bashing thread, really, you're digressing the thread, you clearly have issues with men based on your anecdotal evidence.

    Significantly more males play this game than females, and there are significantly more top ranking male players and male players in general. That also means there are going to be more male asshats, some will be average, bad, or decent, but they're all male players, so the ratio is significantly larger.

    I'm not saying that to bash women, I'm just pointing out your incredibly flawed comparison.
    I have balls dude. Men bashing ha. Not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevkul View Post
    Well, yeah. Assume 70% of players are awful regardless of sex, 70% of 75% is more people than 70% of 25%. Basic mathematics.
    Starting flex raid link achieve and a/s/l

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPaladinGuy View Post
    I can't tell if you're serious.

    Look at the members of the best guilds in the world or great guilds, almost all male.

    Stop turning this into a male bashing thread, really, you're digressing the thread, you clearly have issues with men based on your anecdotal evidence.

    Significantly more males play this game than females, and there are significantly more top ranking male players and male players in general. That also means there are going to be more male asshats, some will be average, bad, or decent, but they're all male players, so the ratio is significantly larger.

    I'm not saying that to bash women, I'm just pointing out your incredibly flawed comparison.
    I do wonder how much of this is less about ability and more about social habits.

    I know most of my friends that are girls think I'm a bit of a nut for playing as much as I do. Top end raiders can literally pretty much say WoW is a part time job with some weeks over near FT hours.

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