Our hunter has 5 tier pieces, our warrior 5 for main spec and 4 for OS. I think I;m the only person on conq token with a normal mode 2 set (i think maybe 4 conq tokens have dropped in 5 clears)
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Is there an official confirmation regarding the reduced drop chance?
A mage of ours got 4 pieces of tier in 1 week, meanwhile I'm still using 522 pants on heroic progression.
My observations based on SoO raids on main char.
Vanq tokens - 26
Prot tokens - 33
Conq tokens - 12
rng in full effect y'all
It's just bad luck. It seems prevalent because no one comes along saying their gear has dropped a lot (or dropped the expected number of times) and because hardly anyone notices when they're getting a "normal" amount of loot anyway and because everyone truthfully expects to get more gear than they probabilistically should.
3 weeks in a row only conq tokens dropped and conq users have 4p for offspec. RNG can be a bitch.
Personal loot makes tier tokens rare in Flexi because it's competing with all the other items you could get from the boss. Suppose you have a 25% chance of getting loot from the boss, and it has 5 items for your loot spec. Then you would have a 5% chance each week of getting that particular tier token.
Distribution between the three tokens is just random variance though. We get a lot of vanquishers and conquerors, and few protectors for example, but that doesn't tell anything about the overall drop rates of those tokens. I believe conqueror token has a slightly lower drop chance because there's only 3 classes needing it. Most likely 27% for conqueror and 36% for the vanquisher and protector.
It is not a bad luck. It is a specially programmed lack of drop. Since Conq token has most powerful and popular classes covered up, it drops shitty on purpose for the most of the guilds I've spoken to, on my realm and lots of others. And it is dropping bad since t7, actually. You can easily look at wowhead, and you'll see that it drops whole 10+% less than other two tokens.
We are raiding 10m since DS; we raided 25 since t5; and since BT we always had our shamans gear at least two specs before any priest/pally gears one. The only raid where token distribution was really equal was ToGC, where tokens weren't class specific. I seriously hope Blizzard would rebalance classes on tokens in 6.0, or even better would make them not class specific, as it was in ToGC.
Guardian might be an exteme example, but I did a flex as one the other night. On Sha the only lootable item was the tier chest. On Naz, two items - tier and shoulders. On Thok, two items - tier and ring.
Without a word of exaggeration, half our raid got chest tokens off of Sha.
Nazgrim drops 3 items - Hand Token, Weapon, Shoulders
Thok drops 4 items - Head Token, Offhand, Gloves, Chest
Siegecrafter drops 3 items - Shoulder Token, Gloves, Battle Pet
Paragons drop 5 items - Leg Token, Ring, Weapon, Bracers, Battle Pet
Garrosh drops 4 items - Token of Choice, Head, Offhand, Trinket
Pretty hard to end up with tier as a warlock.
from our raid experience the basically never drop, all of last tier and so far this one. Best part is in our 10 man there is 5 of us on this token
My guild has seen about 85% conq tokens, including 3 Conq off Blackfuse/Paragons and Garrosh last night (9 conq tokens from those 3). 25H guild. Have yet to seen 1 H-Immersus caster trinket from 3 kills and now our Conq tokens are being given to 2nd offspec players. (Don't have enough OS rollers).
I'm fairly certain that with the introduction of the monk class, yes, the pala/priest/warlock token drop chance lowered from 3/10 chance to 3/11 chance to drop. I could be wrong, this is only a guess, but meh.
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On my shadow priest 5 for Thok and 4 for Paragons. 3 for Sha, Nazgrim and Blackfuse. Obviously being able to roll for both spirit and hit cloth makes this the worst spec for getting tier.
On my mage 4-4-3-3-2
Healing monks seem to be 5-4-3-3-2
That's not counting pet drops. I assume they're not in the included in the regular rolls.
Some specs have a ton of loot from tier bosses, some have very little. Some have 3-5 loot drops from every tier boss. Casters in general seem to have more loot from tier bosses. Even if it's 3 drops, it's still only an 8% chance for tier per kill or coin.
Last edited by paraalso; 2013-10-18 at 07:43 PM.
HC WF shields n cloaks for days.