To Every one are we done on the caut subject? jez i stopped like 3 pages back.. With that said ill continue
Shamans: Why would you ever have Caut on this fight?, use Ginvis for prisons and your problem is solved, as you can get so extremely unlucky and get 3 prisons in a row without trouble invis>IB>invis. Toxic totem have a timer in DBM/BW, and boss has a cast time, dont blink into adds... Adds should not be around "from 3 waves back". The only acceptable damage intake on this fight is prison and meteor, anything else is you bad play.
Protectors: dont run over shit on ground.. alternatively blink away from spin to the spot you where standing, or use Ginvis as you get pulled in, besides the situation you mention is highly unlikely, and have yet to happen to any one in my raid(just like jugga).
Sha of pride: Caut wont save you in prison..Iceblock will however. For getting debuff while running out to soak, Ginvis.. its really handy as well for swelling pride that comes right after Big add, that might still be on you when cast.
Galakras: Again have not seen this "unlucky" stuff your talking about, only time any one from raid dies from that is when tower group is really really slow..(other than that Ginvis dont have a big use in this fight, so again not gonna argue)
Random add on nuroshen: They dont spawn on you.. if it does, it spawn on top of a full raid stacked, and should agro healers first. You should not dps it before tank have agro, easy concept.. Tanks/plate dps should always be able to pick it up/have hunters/rogues md trix..(besides this im not gonna argue as Ginvis have no real use on this fight)
Nazgrim: Never happened(in our raids), and I am always the first to silence the mage, also how do you get agro on mage when you silence it? maybe the rest of your raid is slacking on add dps.. Ginvis is useful for warsongs if your low on hp, your tank should be calling them out on voice chat so plenty of time to press(i know they should not really happen, they can if you need to push on last defensive stance)
Now i haven't read vykinas forum thread in a while so he might have said something new, but the last time i saw him say anything about caut it was in relation to early progress when you dont focus so much on a kill, but are still in the learning phase. And i highly doubt he is using caut on every single encounter besides malkorok.
What i am getting at is, they are both highly situational, but to say only fx malkorok for Ginvis and caut for the others is kinda meh.. there are several occasions in this tier where Ginvis is better. And the few fights where Ginvis is of no use, neither is Cauterize, unless you do some stupid shit or get rng fucked like there is no tomorrow.
Now make your response or dont, but please stop this invis/caut discussion in a tips and tricks. IE stuff like blinking on bombs on jugga or the like.
Edit: for Katmage below, yes i do realise this, i stated that in my first line of this post as well. As i said this discussion have been going on for 3-4 pages now and it's stupid in a thread like this. I could just have stated people should stop and get trolled upon, it's not my job it's a mod job.
I stopped participating in this caut discussion because willemh had a vague point on juggernaut with getting rng screwed. But (some of) the other fights he mentioned in my quoted post, makes no sense at all. f.ex. shamans where the only damage you should ever take is meteor and prison, you want invis for that prison soak, so the healers can focus on people without many def cd's or with no cd's ready. Ie hes argumentation for using caut became really really bad imo.