Can we get a boss counter for LFR que??

[Vilvaldi]

Is there any way to implement something so that when your Q pops for LFR it tells you how many bosses are dead or if it is a fresh run. Over the weekend I tried to do the first wing of SoO for the week and each time bosses where already dead. If I had known, I would not of accepted because I only want to run it once for the week, not continuously Q and piecemeal the run to completion. Is there an add-on or any way to know how many bosses are down before accepting the raid?

[Kalcheus]

They used to have one, but they got rid of it because people would refuse to join if in progress, making the queues longer.

[Airwaves]

No. They removed it because groups that were on the last boss would never fill and fall apart. There is a reason you can't see how many are dead.

BUT! If you have already killed the last boss it will make sure you join a fresh one*. (*99% of the time)

[Deleted]

No. They removed it because groups that were on the last boss would never fill and fall apart. There is a reason you can't see how many are dead.

BUT! If you have already killed the last boss it will make sure you join a fresh one*. (*99% of the time)

Yeah, pretty much happens all the time for me then, too

so: it's retarded to directly leave again. Just kill the bosses still alive and requeue, kill the bosses missing and leave. You will spend less time. As intelligent people may have noticed

[judgementofantonidas]

Is there any way to implement something so that when your Q pops for LFR it tells you how many bosses are dead or if it is a fresh run. Over the weekend I tried to do the first wing of SoO for the week and each time bosses where already dead. If I had known, I would not of accepted because I only want to run it once for the week, not continuously Q and piecemeal the run to completion. Is there an add-on or any way to know how many bosses are down before accepting the raid?

No. Because blizzard thinks it is more fair to make you run 3-5 LFR than for a fail raid to have people turn down their que.

[Airwaves]

Yeah, pretty much happens all the time for me then, too

so: it's retarded to directly leave again. Just kill the bosses still alive and requeue, kill the bosses missing and leave. You will spend less time. As intelligent people may have noticed

Well that all depends. If that boss is nazgrim you are better of leaving and waiting for the debuff to go away.

[Archimand]

No. They removed it because groups that were on the last boss would never fill and fall apart. There is a reason you can't see how many are dead.

BUT! If you have already killed the last boss it will make sure you join a fresh one*. (*99% of the time)

thats a lie it wont "make sure" it will try to find fresh group.
talking from experiance here i joined run that wasnt fresh killed last boss got out of the raid queued again for same wing got last boss again

[Deleted]

Well that all depends. If that boss is nazgrim you are better of leaving and waiting for the debuff to go away.

uhm...so you leave, have a 30min debuff, queue again for 30 minutes, kill first three bosses in 40 minutes and then wiping at Nazgrim for 45 minutes ist faster then killing nazgrim in 45min, queue again for 30 minutes and kill the first three bosses in 40 minutes. Math is well with you young Padawan

[Reyzzz]

thats a lie it wont "make sure" it will try to find fresh group.
talking from experiance here i joined run that wasnt fresh killed last boss got out of the raid queued again for same wing got last boss again

For every guy this has happened to, there is a guy it hasn't.

[Airwaves]

thats a lie it wont "make sure" it will try to find fresh group.
talking from experiance here i joined run that wasnt fresh killed last boss got out of the raid queued again for same wing got last boss again

Did you not read the whole sentence?

[Reyzzz]

Math is well with you young Padawan

My math says it's best to subtract LFR completely from the equation.

[Allatar]

There used to be an addon that turned the functionality back on. It definitely worked in 5.3 but have no idea if it's viable in 5.4 or has been broken by Blizz.

[Drairon]

BUT! If you have already killed the last boss it will make sure you join a fresh one*. (*99% of the time)

(First 2 weeks of LFR part4) - I was part of the 1% that would always que into Lei Shen after 55 minutes; To then wait 2 hours for our stacks to get to 10, before killing it. Then I'd re-queue to again wait 50+ minutes for ANOTHER Lei Shen...


After the first week, I created 3 Macro's, and always queued and asked for Lead, so I could spam my Lei Shen easy to do; easy to follow, easy win macro. After that, it was always a 1 shot.

[potatoe]

There used to be an addon that turned the functionality back on. It definitely worked in 5.3 but have no idea if it's viable in 5.4 or has been broken by Blizz.

Blizzard removed it from the UI and there was a thought that it might still be accessible via programming API, so someone made an addon.

Not sure if the addon ever worked, but Blizzard would have broken it if it did.

Nov 27, 2012 - Blizzard removes from UI:
http://wowpedia.org/Patch_5.1
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/792..._2012#dungeons

Nov 27, 2012 - Someone makes an addon:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7199032620

Nov 29, 2012 - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...2669?page=2#37

What about the addon(s) that were written post-5.1 in response to this that tell you how many bosses, if any, have been killed?

You mean the one that was deleted from Curse because it didn't work? :) As far as I'm aware none of them work.

Nov 29, 2012 - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...2669?page=2#26
Rationale.


Nov 30, 2012 - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7200082274#4
More rationale.

[ItachiZaku]

Blizzard removed it from the UI and there was a thought that it might still be accessible via programming API, so someone made an addon.
Not sure if the addon ever worked, but Blizzard would have broken it if it did.

I believe it involves asking in /i what boss they are on, or having knowledge of the instance when you zone in, of what boss you are about to do. It's a great addon.

[Deleted]

If you get a spot in a not finished LFR you would be a total god damn idiot to decline it only to queue up again and hope for a fresh one - IT WILL TAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME FOR YOU.

Lets say the queue is 15 min. You stood in it for 15 min, queue pops, you leave it since there was 3/4 dead.
You will now stand in the queue for another 15 min, get into a fresh one (if you are lucky). Then another 10 min per boss (for example). 70min will be your time spent on this LFR

If you would have just joined the first queue you could have killed the last boss in 15+10 min, joined another queue, 15 min and then another 30 for the last 3. Again, 70 min total.
And this is if you are lucky to get a fresh group on the second queue-up, if you run by this second example you are pretty much guaranteed a fresh grp on the second queue.

You will probably not have to clear trash for the last boss aswell so joining the first one probably saves you a few minutes.

[Kalmah]

If I had known, I would not of accepted because I only want to run it once for the week, not continuously Q and piecemeal the run to completion. Is there an add-on or any way to know how many bosses are down before accepting the raid?

Let's see... You get a fresh run, all goes well until last boss where a tank decides to leave for whatever reason. You're now stuck waiting for a tank. But because people can see that it's only the last boss when the queue pops, you never get another tank. Now, if you want to do only the last boss, you have to start with a fresh run again!

See why your attitude is a bad one?

[Deleted]

My math says it's best to subtract LFR completely from the equation.

You must be a genious!
I never thought of that :P!