View Poll Results: What Kind of Expansion Do You Want?

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  • Darker, more gritty expansion

    371 75.25%
  • In between

    73 14.81%
  • More like MoP

    49 9.94%
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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Vren View Post
    This.

    Warhammer Online was the pinnacle of gritty to me (if anyone here has played it before it got screwed). It was terribly morbid, but hilarious at the same time.
    Warhammer had the best ideas in an MMO I've seen to date. They just sucked horribly at making it work... It's sad, really

    If Blizzard could take on what Warhammer was trying to do mixed with their experience in WoW and make another MMO after WoW using this... That would be a game I would probably play until the day I die lol

    And I do agree... The grit/humor ratio was perfect in that game lol

  2. #122
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    Ooh no, please keep Warhammer out of this.
    GW thinks that the level of grittyness can be measured by the amount of skulls you put on something.
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    I want to see an xpack where we lose.
    Pandaria in ruins, the Horde in ruins, old alliances destroyed.
    I don't think we 'won' anything in Pandaria.

    It's like burning down a house because you spilled your milk, we lost pretty hard on every aspect.

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    It's interesting that people that want the next expansion to be dark bring up Jade Forest and Vot4W and never talk about Dread Wastes. If blood and bodies laying around are your definition of 'dark and gritty' no thanks. There was plenty of dark in Mists. Those that never bother with the actual story probably didn't see just how dark the expansion was. They won't see it in the next expansion either, hence it should look like Diablo.

    The injection of terror and tragedy into what appears to be a relatively peaceful situation and the horrors that war can bring to an entire people that never asked for the Alliance/Horde war to be brought to their shores are plenty dark.
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    I'm just gonna go ahead and agree with MoanaLisa. MoP was pretty damn dark, provided you took the time to pay attention to the story.

  5. #125
    I don't care what it is, as long as it's not underwater... Honestly none of the expansions to date have been "dark" the game is to bright and bubbly to be dark and gloomy.
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  6. #126
    I don't want to sound like a complete hater but I am SO DONE with pandas and zen and all that nonsense, I'm ready to cut something's eyes out xD

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    Dread wastes was dark enough for me. I would like more art like zangarmarsh, which did not have a lot of color but still looked magical and mysterious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelxi View Post
    Dread wastes was dark enough for me. I would like more art like zangarmarsh, which did not have a lot of color but still looked magical and mysterious.
    Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that actually liked the look of Zangarmarsh lol It's one of the best looking zones, imo. The look of it always made questing there fun too. Or maybe that was just because I had finally escaped the orange mess that is Hellfire Peninsula xD

    As for the "dark/gritty", some people seem to think that the game NEEDS to be all imminent apocalypse to be "mature". MoP has plenty of things that should be seen as dark or even gritty. Too many people ignore the story and then wonder why it's not what they want.

    That said, assuming they're not going with entirely new lore twice in a row, and I doubt they will, I don't really mind what the expansion is. Mostly because we can sort of surmise that it will involve either the Burning Legion or Azshara. I also think Blizzard are going to be pulling some stops out for expansion 5. But, as long as the lore is good and the gameplay is fun, I'll be pretty much happy. Because at the end of the day, under all the player-created bullshit that infects WoW, we all just want to have fun, no?

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  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Bremmon View Post
    I don't care what it is, as long as it's not underwater... Honestly none of the expansions to date have been "dark" the game is to bright and bubbly to be dark and gloomy.
    This a million times over.

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Compstance View Post
    This a million times over.

    lol, hey! I sorta like Vash'jir, at least the first time around.

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    I want really dark and gritty. Think like warhammer dark elves who devoted themselves to slaanesh dark..

    Like pitch black / holocaust humor the entire time.
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    The next expansion has to be dark, and I think it will be; though how effective Blizzard will be at implementing this is debatable. For marketing purposes I doubt they can make it *too* awful, but if I had my way I would have the next expansion delve so hard into the ideas of insanity and the old gods that you would be almost literally shitting yourself.

    Ny'alotha has amazing potential to be the most terrifying thing that has ever been in WoW. All it requires is to hire a psychologist, and truly design that area/part of the expansion to be as psychologically traumatising as possible. Not gorey, but manipulative and horrific. It is painted out to be a pit of despair and true madness, so why should it not be in game? The background music has to send a shiver down your spine, there must be whispers in the shadows, there must be weird and wonderful curios that will make players panic. If any of you have done the Niuzao Temple quest chains, you will remember that there is a cave of fear nearby, where mobs that attack you cause you to "go to 1hp" and have flashing warnings that your health is low and you are about to die. I freaked. Perhaps there could be a set of things that can randomly happen to your character, and give them the chance to be either an illusion, or real. I.e. Have yourself drop to 1HP and have an image of an opposite faction member approach you, and there is a chance that you either have full HP still, or that you actually only have one; have a chance that there is in fact an opposite faction member about to gank you, or an illusion.

    Strange whispers amongst the kelp trees about the quest you are on, that when taken as advice, may help you complete it, or cause you to die. It would make you question everything. Riddles everywhere.

    The whole expansion should not be dark, but Ny'alotha itself should be immensely so. And terrifying to boot. I really want to be petrified of going questing there, because you really don't know what will happen. There are elite mobs all around that are unpredictable and can sneak up on you and pretty much one shot you, or be harmless; you will never know. You are not safe. And if you are not careful? You will rest in Ny'alotha.

    Dying while in Ny'alotha could be different too. Whenever you die, you are unable to rez unless you complete a series of tasks, like haunting other players (which could perhaps proc the random illusion events which happen to them, or perhaps permit you to "be" one of these elites and you cannot rez until you have sufficiently traumatised someone else, be that killing them or if they are particularly skilled, having them beat you).

    Ny'alotha should be a zone you do not go to willy-nilly. You should prefer to go in a group, as it is hideously dangerous, and it should be, most of all, insane.

  13. #133
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    Mists of Pandaria is actually pretty "dark" in concept, what with your fears manifesting a physical form. If you take a closer look at the quests, there are some pretty grim things going down on both sides - Garrosh's corruption, Jaina's madness, the enslavement story of the Pandaren to the Mogu, the sha, lands shattered, corrupted and lost.. You just gotta pay a little more attention from the graphics and you can see it, really, in my opinion.

    Can it get more gritty, like in Wrath? Yes. By all means the more gore there is the better, in my opinion. It makes it feel real, something that grips at you and gets under your skin. I was pretty sad when the Crypts under Karazhan were "removed" from the game, to tell you the truth. So much you can pull out from there.

    Then again, the amount of gore has to be on a limit because the game itself is rated +12 and "we wouldn't want to scare the kiddies" and steer clear of certain aspects so they don't get too under the skin. (The Chinese don't really take kindly to undeath apparently.)

    But I have my hopes. I know Blizz will offer something really good on the next x-pac.

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    Would love that morbid atmosphere back that you had in the original Tirisfal/Silverpine/Plaguelands/Naxx/Scholo etc zones, which was also present in Karazhan. Love that atmosphere in MMOs.

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    But since when did gore become the criteria for grim?
    Why do we measure the darkness from the amount of skulls an expansion has?

  16. #136
    As much of an improvement MoP was, I think we need a more serious and dark expansion to get more people to take the lore seriously. :P

    Enough of Thrall having babies, enough finding happiness and 'togetherness' in panda land.

    I want some important people to die and dark and grim things to happen.

    Lets get some Game Of Thrones fantasy in here! haha

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    But since when did gore become the criteria for grim?
    Why do we measure the darkness from the amount of skulls an expansion has?
    No, Tzeentch doesnt have a single drop of blood in his domain. His domain is propably the worst for mortals..
    The common man is like a worm in the gut of a corpse, trapped inside a prison of cold flesh, helpless and uncaring, unaware even of the inevitability of its own doom.

  18. #138
    As dark as tbc it's perfect please. We've had a nice break with mop now please don't do it ever again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspen View Post
    I don't want to sound like a complete hater but I am SO DONE with pandas and zen and all that nonsense, I'm ready to cut something's eyes out xD
    I sort of agree. I liked the whole harmony thing around MoP, but the quests had such a light theme that it felt like I was an adventurer instead of some hero. Adventuring is fun the first time, not when repeated.

    I want a Burning legion expansion. Why? It's probably the biggest and most in-depth lore WoW has to offer, I miss the raids like Black Temple(didn't raid at that time, but the raid itself is amazing, no.1 raid on my list).

    I liked how they balanced balance & harmony with war and bloody zones. You had Nagrand with it's amazing landscape, shattrath in terokkar, a dark-themed but still pretty peaceful area if you ignore the birdpeople all over the place. You had Hellfire peninsula and Shadowmoon valley(hopefully how a burning legion expansion would look like), but I also hope for peaceful, unharmed zones.

    Perhaps mages(Khadgar, not Jaina and co.) protected the entire zone with some sort of a barrier like in the final Harry Potter movie. I also don't mean another Netherstorm, but maybe a Nagrand(be original, not Nagrand) inside, so that you won't notice the barrier too much. I also wish they would come up with some original way of re-using shattrath, much like dalaran. Give us shattrath, we give you subscriptions!

  20. #140
    Definitely dark. Hoping on a good bad guy too

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