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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Badpaladin View Post
    A political party intent on shutting down the federal government and royally screwing over our economy in many ways deserves plenty of hate.

    Well by using your definition we could also toss OWS in the same boat.

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    Do not insult our inttelegence on the matter of somehow not knowing what the tea party stands for. As a guy who fancies himself as a socialist it isn't a mystery why I think the tea party can jump off a cliff, compounded now thanks to recent events. As long as shit stains like ted Cruz call themselves tea party "patriots" they can go suck lemons for all I care. They are a blight on our political system and BOTH sides know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    No, it was about the money going to England, instead of to help American infrastructure. The tea party treats our government as if they are British, which would be one of the better words they use to describe lower classes and their 'benefits'.
    Which might not be too far from the truth, given how the current government seems absolutely intent on transforming America into a British colony.
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    Nakura Chambers make ME look like a pacifist with all of his war threads.
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    Socialism is a form of subjugation. The United States, via Hollywood, is glorifying socialism and feeding it to the European masses as a form of subjugation. We got sick and tired of Europe fighting World Wars. This is how we put a stop to it. We turn Europe into American colonies by making them think socialism is the superior political system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Well by using your definition we could also toss OWS in the same boat.
    OWS wanted to end lobbying efforts and wealth inequality. Tea Party members wanted to shut down all Government operations that didn't involve the military (and partially succeeded in doing so).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    You're changing the topic, I never mentioned the shutdown. Do you honestly believe that your side is so perfect that they couldn't possibly be corrupted?
    Actions speak louder than words. The constant threat of shutdowns / actual shutdown and the close call constant default risk are their creation to press leverage.

    People "hate" the tea party for what they do moreso than what they stand for. And what they've done is caused constant economic uncertainty that economists estimate has costed us nearly 1M jobs over the last 4 year.

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    The Tea Party is just the latest incarnation of far-right populism in this country. 50 years ago they were the John Birch society (founded in part by Fred Koch, father of those Kochs). 150 years ago they started the Civil War, then founded the original KKK. Its the same impulses and rhetoric every time (State's rights, demands that everyone else gives in to their desires, demonization of foreigners, discussions of "true Americans", etc.) The only thing new about the Tea Party is the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    Which might not be too far from the truth, given how the current government seems absolutely intent on transforming America into a British colony.
    I'm sorry... but what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badpaladin View Post
    OWS wanted to end lobbying efforts and wealth inequality. Tea Party members wanted to shut down all Government operations that didn't involve the military (and partially succeeded in doing so).
    You mean how they passed a CR that was rejected by the Senate?
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    Nakura Chambers make ME look like a pacifist with all of his war threads.
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    Socialism is a form of subjugation. The United States, via Hollywood, is glorifying socialism and feeding it to the European masses as a form of subjugation. We got sick and tired of Europe fighting World Wars. This is how we put a stop to it. We turn Europe into American colonies by making them think socialism is the superior political system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badpaladin View Post
    OWS wanted to end lobbying efforts and wealth inequality. Tea Party members wanted to shut down all Government operations that didn't involve the military (and partially succeeded in doing so).
    Well you talked about royally screwing over the economy....which the OWS would be fine with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    I'm sorry... but what?
    Democrats are trying to force America to become more like Britain, as opposed to becoming more like a much better society, such as Japan, Sweden or Switzerland. That's very regressive of them.
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    Socialism is a form of subjugation. The United States, via Hollywood, is glorifying socialism and feeding it to the European masses as a form of subjugation. We got sick and tired of Europe fighting World Wars. This is how we put a stop to it. We turn Europe into American colonies by making them think socialism is the superior political system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    You mean how they passed a CR that was rejected by the Senate?
    You do know it was Eric Cantor who was basically the one holding both sides from voting on ending the shutdown, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    You mean how they passed a CR that was rejected by the Senate?
    A CR that demanded the defunding of the primary democratic legislative achievement. So likely to be passed. Remember, the Tea party is only part of 1/2 of 1/3 of the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    Yet borderline socialists like Dennis Kucinich and fascists like Dianne Feinstein aren't doing the same thing to the Democratic Party? Or the Blue Dog Coalition?

    Or historical internal factions, like the Stalwarts, half-breeds, Dixiecrats, etc.?

    You seem to think that the Republicans have always been some homogenous block, but that isn't the case. There are many factions in the party, like libertarians (Barry Goldwater, Ron Paul), social conservatives (Rick Perry, Rick Santorum), Tea Party (Herman Cain, Rand Paul), paleoconservatives (Pat Buchanan), neoconservatives (John McCain) and even liberals (Mitt Romney, Chris Christie).
    Libertarians ran as a third party, Ron Paul is fucking their chances by pretending libertarians are republican. Rand also no calls him self a libertarian, he ran away from the tea party to help his dad fuck actual libertarians.

    All the crap you listed is not reflected in their voting. It just makes you feel better to pretend their different...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    Democrats are trying to force America to become more like Britain, as opposed to becoming more like a much better society, such as Japan, Sweden or Switzerland. That's very regressive of them.
    And also completely not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Well you talked about royally screwing over the economy....which the OWS would be fine with.
    I'm not going to delve into opinions versus actual economics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    Which might not be too far from the truth, given how the current government seems absolutely intent on transforming America into a British colony.
    That's why people think the tea party is what it is. Folks like you are just confirming it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakura Chambers View Post
    Democrats are trying to force America to become more like Britain, as opposed to becoming more like a much better society, such as Japan, Sweden or Switzerland. That's very regressive of them.
    Again, showing the reason why people think the way they do about the tea party. Because proponents of the tea party, say the shit that you do. It's like in another thread a dude was trying to call freaking Bloomberg a democrat. There is this disconnect with reality that tea baggers seem to share...
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    If the tea party was actually about smaller government, I would be fine with them. But, they are more for pushing corporatism (in the guise of free markets), and getting a republican back in office. The majority of tea party members are in favor of banning gay marriage, that makes them big-government conservatives. Even worse, a large percentage of those in the tea party who opposed legalizing gay marriage, understand that it is direct contradiction with the 14th Amendment. That means that they also really don't give a damn about the U.S. Constitution. Then you also have to take in the correlation between the Birther movement and the tea party. The only logical explanations for Birtherism, is willful ignorance, or flat out racism. Not all tea party members are racists, but there are enough so that it becomes a problem. I was at the major DC rally in 2009, and racism was rampant.

    As far as the shutdown is concerned, the GOP has to own the majority of the responsibility. It was the direct plan of many of them, and they included legislation to ensure that it stayed shut down. Instead of beinf fiscally responsible, and actually trying to get budget cuts (which Boehner and Reid had already agreed upon $70 billion in cuts), they opted to shut down the government in order to use the ACA as ransom. The shutdown lies almost entirely on the shoulders of the tea party, and now, they have nothing to show for it. Oh wait, we have a bloated budget, because they didn't actually focus on what they've been ranting about for years now.

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    Did you mean the Tea Party that runs candidates on a fiscally responsible platform for "true muricans"? Then as soon as they get elected they forget they are fiscally responsible and go right to abortion bills and doing everything in their power to make Obama fail? The same Tea Party that lives a fantasy world devoid of science and facts? The same Tea Party that refuses to compromise on anything and in fact views compromise as being weak? Yes no one understans these poor, misunderstood Tea Baggers who are just out to bring America back to the Utopia of the 1950's.

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    This thread is going places. Let's count the references to tea bagging (Democrat's favorite pasttime based on the number of references to it I see) and have a drink for every time it's used.

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    At this point Two parties may not be feasible anymore. No longer.
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