All this whining about FREE loot....
As someone said before, it used to be 3 or 4 items for a 40 man group....
Who remembers VendorStrike?
Talk about useless loot......
Although I agree, getting the same loot again from rolls is kind of annoying, at least you are getting gear. I've been rolling every week since launch of the tier and I have only rolled a ring. We've had Hunter/Warrior/Shaman/Monk tier pieces dropping every single week from every tier boss, minus Garrosh. I'm not exaggerating either. I'm a Shadow Priest by the way. 6 weeks in and I have one BiS piece, the ring,.....no tier, no trinket(s), nothing.
People like to say "RNG is RNG", but that doesn't sufficiently answer the question, "Is RNG loot a compelling gameplay mechanic?" For all the people out there who are complaining about RNG loot I'm going to take a wild guess and say no, no it isn't. I understand the developers' stance that when you finally get that piece of gear you wanted that you jump for joy and lose your shit because OMG, YOU FINALLY GOT IT but was it really worth all the other times when you rolled the dice only for the game to tell you to go fuck yourself?
I think what contributes to the anger over RNG loot the most is the knowledge that if you down the boss and you don't get the item you're looking for then next time you're effectively starting from square one. (Minus the bonus coin protection, though I can't feel that it actually makes a difference.) Every time you don't get what you're looking for is coupled with the knowledge that all of the effort you put into attempting to get that gear was worthless and that you have made absolutely no progress towards obtaining it. That's the real demoralizer.
For me the best raid of this expansion was ToT because I'd just settled for obtaining valor items. When I got my first decent piece of gear I wasn't excited. Instead my thought was, "I'm getting my first piece eight weeks in and it's lower iLvl than the valor piece I bought? Wow, fuck you game." At least with the valor gear it was predictable and even though it was slow going I knew that every time I ran LFR I was making some small bit of progress.
Again, I say that the question you should be asking isn't "Why are people complaining about extra chances at RNG loot?" Instead it should be, "Is RNG loot really that compelling?"
getting it turned into a sha crystal would at least give a bit more gold for the disappointment
That's life. You don't always get what you want. Nothing to fix here.
remove loot from bosses and make it all low gold price from vendors, there everyone's equal, no RNG, enjoy your lootless game.
Here is the problem no one ever mentions when they talk about duplicate protection. I have bonus rolled two helms from garrosh. Either of which is useful to me since I have tier helm.
How would this duplicate protection system know I've already received the item? Do you want me to carry an item I will never use in my bag? Perhaps keep it in my bank or void storage and have blizzard implement a system to scan those?
Not everyone has only one useful spec, not all duplicate loot is trash. Just be glad the system is there.
As a rogue, no other agility weapon users in my raid despite a feral tank (only spears/staff which I don't care).
Killed every boss, coined every boss with dagger loot (3 of them actually not counting hl Garrosh); still with ToT daggers.
Bags are a bonus. Nothing needs to be changed. If you don't think the rewards are worth the "extra" effort (lol) then stop collecting coins, but don't complain because bonus free loot isn't giving you what you want after 6 weeks.
The establishment too is relatively happy when different groups of desperate people point the finger at each other because it prevents blame being correctly directed at them. Whenever we are looking for the solution to a problem we must identify who has power. By power I mean influence and money. The answer is not for us to move further from one another, crouched in opposing fortresses constructed from vindictive words. We need now to move closer to one another, to understand one another.
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