Only immature retards would think their opinion is the only good one.
So if they add Rudolf the Reindeer in the next Mass Effect, the OP would say it's totally childlish for me to say Rudolf doesn't fit in the Mass Effect Universe? It's not about Panda's being childlish, it's about Panda's not fitting in the WoW-world for me.
And tbfh what makes you think your oppinion is the only valid one?
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MAIN BOSS is subjective, want a little secret? The MAIN BOSS of cata was actually N'zoth. Deathwing was a pawn and part of many factions doing his dirty work.
This expansion did a few things along with expanding the games lore. It introduced us to another old god, Introduced us to the Mantid empire, The armies of Mogu and Lei Shen an ancient tyrant king, It fleshed out the ZANDALARI further which i think is one of the most important things since the Prophet Zul/ King Rastakhan are still alive in the game. And it brought a culmination to the war that has been brewing since Garrosh was given power at the end of WotLK.
Really now, Sounds like a fleshed out expansion to me.
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Permanently retired MMO player. Freedom is nice.
Nothing will ever fit in Warcraft anymore. Ive just been on a thread about people bitching that there are to many mailboxes ffs.
kung fu pandaland was the worst thing to happen to the game.
I liked pandas so much better than worgen. The worgen starting zone is really cool, but the worgen models are so horrible, it just killed them for me and was a huge letdown from my POV. My highest level worgen is 14.
OP makes the assumption that many of us disliked pandaria since this expansion, even though we disliked chen and the way pandaren were introduced since Warcraft 3.
People keep saying how this game has talking cows and goats, but the problem isn't there, it's how they are presented. As I eagerly awaited Warcraft 3 and was scouting their magnificent webpage daily, I came upon the first image of a Tauren, which was was this (notice it doesn't even have a totem or any sort of "native American" influence this early):
Meanwhile, when pandaren made their appearance it was during an April Fool's joke from Blizzard, and their first presentation to the game was this:
Not that I was impressed, but it was fine, as Gnomes are no less ridiculous in many instances, but a smiling panda in traditional Chinese/Japanese outfit pasted in the middle of Warcraft just seemed off somehow. In its own game aside from Warcraft? It actually looked cool, but stuck in there, it was throwing off all immersion for some reason.
Now, come mists of pandaria. Once again, their presentation to the world came through: "Guys, this is not a joke.". Ugh...it's like a comedian coming on stage and saying "Guys, I really AM funny!". Which was fine once again, as we hadn't even seen the product. When we actually did, it didn't help at all.
There is no reason to respect pandaren from a WARCRAFT standpoint. Greenpeace would probably love them, but their history is teeming with examples, especially recent, where if not for one guy or other people's intervention, they'd all gone to hell. It's a weak race with uninspiring examples of how they all crap their pants when dire situations arise, and get saved by some Zen emperor or one guy who teaches them kung fu or the Alliance and Horde.
A race of warrior monks who work fields all day and travel everywhere who are fat disgusting slobs? How does that make any sense? In what kung fu movie have we ever seen martial prowess combined with unrealistically out of shape kung fu masters? And it's not even as their entire race is capable of martial arts, it's just an elite sect. Once again, from a Warcraft standpoint, these people are useless. Lacking presentation, once again.
I don't know what impression of pandaren Blizzard wanted to give us, but whatever it was, I didn't get it. Did they want us to see pandaren as this:
Well, sorry guys, but China doesn't want to have its national animal be mixed with those Japanese people, so we'll give you a race with no in-game semblance of ferocity, but which we promise you, IT'S NOT A JOKE!@!!1111!!!11111111!!!!!.
Their presentation failed, their delivery failed, and thus they don't fit into the game, to this day, aside maybe from Taoshi.
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Really enjoyed the expansion and the new race/class. People who say MoP is childish or turning into Kung Fu Panda I tend to just laugh at, because they're usually people who're either extremely narrow minded or very dim.
Whole bloody thread proves my point, but everyone keep repeating it.
Just stop, some like blue color, some like red color.
Some think ice cream is a must with chocolate cake, some think that is not.
What people enjoy, and what people think fits in the Warcraft universe, is up to each and everyone, for their own.
There is no facts here.
People sharing their opinion, and they tell them the other person is wrong cus he think brown color is ugly.
While the other think pink is the only color that fits in this room.
*facepalm* as I said, immaturity!
As I've said, most people don't even have anything against the idea of pandaren because of kung fu panda, but because of how they've been misrepresented since their introduction to the game. You can't just say "oh it's different tastes so you're not mature because you don't like mine". I'm giving arguments as to why I think pandaren don't fit, you're just ignoring everything and labeling everything as immaturity.
So by your logic, if Blizzard introduced tomorrow a race of pink bunnies who live inside carrots and use an energy called "Flufiness" to power their "Cuteness" attacks, and say 1% of the WoW population LOVED it, the entire 99% other part would be immature for thinking this is a dumb idea for Warcraft, provided they gave good arguments for it.
Jesus christ Kangodo how do you live with yourself posting this kind of weak stuff? I even acknowledged that races like Gnomes have always been silly, Warcraft has always had a measure of silliness, that wasn't my argument.
Taurent did NOT start off like that. If that would have been their original presentation you can be sure as hell I would have went "WTF is this?" when I first saw it. It was added later on for World of Warcraft just like units have funny things to say when you click on them many times in the RTS.
Tauren had presence and presentation when they first made their appearance, and it followed through with the WoW cinematic and in-game lore, regardless of their on the side complementary silly stuff. They're a proud and noble race and were so before they got a million Native American references in WoW and a silly dance.
Pandaren got a bad introduction, a bad re-introduction, some awesome artwork, a good cinematic presence, then the whole thing felt like it fell flat for that actual in-game introduction.
You're just taking the least significant and unrelated portion of the game and trying to pass it off as an entire argument.
Pandaren have tons of dark, interesting and mature things on them.
But people can't stop focusing on ONE quest-hub with rabbits and the name of a racial-trait.
If we are talking about Pandaren then one small thing is suddenly enough to ruin the entire expansion.
But Kobolds and the other million jokes in other expansions was never a problem.
That seems like a gigantic bias, some people just want to dislike MoP and there is no discussion possible.
Maybe I can spell it out again: Some people don't agree with you.
Some people don't think that their presentation or the delivery failed and they think they do fit in this game.