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    BiS Tier 16 for Flex raiders

    Hello Hunters!

    As a flex raider myself, I threw together a BiS list for hunters who don't do normal/heroic.
    Use it as a reference when you get new piece of loot and wonder if you should upgrade it or not.

    Average item level: 557.1
    List:
    Helm: Headguard of the Unblinking Vigil
    Neck: Smoldering Eye
    Shoulders: Spaulders of the Unblinking Vigil
    Cloak: Fen-Yu, Fury of Xuen
    Chest: Moonhee's Mean Vest
    Wrist: Bowflight Wristguard
    Gloves: Gloves of the Unblinking Vigil
    Belt: Light Kindler Waistguard
    Pants: Legguards of the Unblinking Vigil
    Boots: Ravager's Pathwalkers
    Ring 1: Reality Ripper Ring
    Ring 2: Ring of Restless Energy
    Trinket 1: Assurance of Consequence
    Trinket 2 (for SV): Haromm's Talisman
    Trinket 2 (for BM): Ticking Ebon Detonator
    Weapon: Hisek's Reserve Longbow

    Profile on FD, no proffesions so add your proffesion bonuses accordingly:
    http://www.femaledwarf.com/?setting_id=17869

    Let me know if I missed something

    Good hunting!
    Last edited by Cyrops; 2013-10-18 at 11:46 AM. Reason: Edited with Ordos loot
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    Actually, I believe the Heirloom bow is BiS. It has 2 sockets. Even on normal/heroic, the Heirloom bow from Garrosh is BiS unless you get a Warforged version of the other weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehterokkar View Post
    Actually, I believe the Heirloom bow is BiS. It has 2 sockets. Even on normal/heroic, the Heirloom bow from Garrosh is BiS unless you get a Warforged version of the other weapons.
    You are incorrect.
    Just run the sim you will find out.
    Garrosh bow is ~100dps loss if you bruteforce stat conversion.
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    I did some sims. With Garosh bow you gain ~2% dps increase compare to Hisek. 140 agi is better than secondary stats. Garosh bow > Hisek.
    I'm not interested in flex, i did it because a was curious and bored at work ;]

    But of course I might be wrong
    Last edited by dzidek; 2013-10-18 at 11:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzidek View Post
    I did some sims. With Garosh bow you gain ~2% dps increase compare to Hisek. 140 agi is better than ~800 crit. Garosh bow > Hisek.
    I'm not interested in flex, i did it because a was curious.

    But of course I might be wrong
    If you are not interested in flex, then perhaps you will find other items better.
    Keep in mind that you have to look at secondary stats, if you straight up sim with garosh bow, you will get increase due to lower amount of stats waste for overcapping hit/exp, then you need to reforge accordingly.

    Ran a few tests, to outweight 800crit you need 250agility (with bis items).
    Last edited by Cyrops; 2013-10-18 at 11:07 AM.
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    isn't the warforged stuff from ordos better than the crafted ones - you have the cloak in your list so doing ordos isn't a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sul View Post
    isn't the warforged stuff from ordos better than the crafted ones - you have the cloak in your list so doing ordos isn't a problem
    oooh good point, forgot about Ordos loot (don't have the cloak yet myself D: )
    are 'warforged' just a 'normal' drop?
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    Ordos drops are always warforged.

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    Surely it would be far better to have the legs from ordos and the tier chest no....? Tier chest gives Crit/Haste and the ordos legs give Crit/Mastery. Seems like a much better option than a Crit/Mastery chest with a Haste/Mastery legs.

    With Tier legs Ordos chest you would get:

    1137 crit
    2701 mastery
    1118 haste

    Compared to Tier chest Ordos legs:

    2369 crit
    1472 mastery
    1078 haste

    Not to mention the fact you get 80 extra agility out of this combination due to the fact you receive 2 extra red sockets than your set up.
    Last edited by mmoce7fe1d879b; 2013-10-18 at 06:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrops View Post
    You are incorrect.
    Just run the sim you will find out.
    Garrosh bow is ~100dps loss if you bruteforce stat conversion.
    Sim as in FD? Or sim as in simulationcraft. FD puts garrosh's bow 530 dps ahead.

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    BIS Legs = crafted or Ordos (for Flex)

    Depends on your luck.

    Desirae's Dashing Leggings
    Gorge Stalker Legplates


    Basically try to get all your off-pieces from Ordos
    Last edited by Supakaiser; 2013-10-19 at 04:09 PM.
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    yeah if you are going to include ordos and celestials on the table you better include anything on their loot table and start weighting even 4pc for bm. or dont call it BIS flex.

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