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    Shadow Priest has a very weak lore?

    Or perhaps I should say very little lore?
    http://wowpedia.org/Shadow_Priest

    There is nothing there, really.

    Compare to what you can find about known Warlocks and known Death Knights.

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    That was fast? Anyways, Shadow Priests has loads of lore, search Cult of the Forgotten Shadow.

    http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=...-breaking-lore
    That thread also explains shadow a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gozzu View Post
    That was fast? Anyways, Shadow Priests has loads of lore, search Cult of the Forgotten Shadow.

    http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=...-breaking-lore
    That thread also explains shadow a bit.
    Sure you have the http://wowpedia.org/Cult_of_Forgotten_Shadow
    Things are explained.

    But I mean the lack of some important Shadow Priest characters in World of Warcraft, some Gul'dan or you know?
    If you check out Warlock or Death Knight lore, you find a lot about Arthas and the Lich King and Shadow of Council, Gul'dan and the Burning Legion, it's just quite many connections.

    I just wish perhaps there was moe Shadow Priest connections or important characters that was used in previous expansions or future.

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    I hear ya, I wish there was more Shadow Priest lore too. I know the just of it: "Forsaken priests found shadow magic and taught others in secret and it spread and now every priest knows that light cannot exist without shadow" or something but that's pretty much it.

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    Thats most likely because they arent a class of their own, and in WC lore, they're pretty new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnome View Post
    But I mean the lack of some important Shadow Priest characters in World of Warcraft, some Gul'dan or you know?
    Haven't you heard about Dierdre?

    The Light of Dawn?
    Dragonslayer?
    Savior of Azeroth? I trimmed Deathwing's heroic friggin' nails for crying out loud.

    Gosh, I really need to hire Gamon's publicist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dierdre View Post
    Haven't you heard about Dierdre?

    The Light of Dawn?
    Dragonslayer?
    Savior of Azeroth? I trimmed Deathwing's heroic friggin' nails for crying out loud.

    Gosh, I really need to hire Gamon's publicist.
    Never heard of you in my life. Sorry

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    If you search for priest lore you have to look up paladins and warlocks and sometimes even shamans a lot of it is hidden there.

    But you are right. There is basically shadow lore for the undead and holy lore for the others, but those are just dublicatees of each other and what is called shadow lore for the undeads is basically an explanation how they can use the effects that are realised ingame as holy spells. It is not lore to explain the shadow tree itself.

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    How quickly you guys forget the writings of Yvaelle and his explanations of Shadow Priests and the Sha.

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    I should really bookmark that post and the couple others I've made so I have something to link when people ask about this


    Edit: Found it surprisingly fast actually!

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...3#post19181353
    Last edited by Yvaelle; 2013-10-20 at 07:45 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvaelle View Post
    I should really bookmark that post and the couple others I've made so I have something to link when people ask about this


    Edit: Found it surprisingly fast actually!

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...3#post19181353
    That was a good read, thanks.

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    What we need is new lore for non-Undead shadow priests. Benedictus and Anduin are official priest characters with shadow powers, yet we don't know how they learned it or... even why, both characters have the Light on their side. We need a dark priest character to represent us!
    English is not my first language, feel free to correct any mistake I may make.

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    There never was any indication that the shadow tree for non-undead priests is not a side effect of learning to use the Holy ight itself, kind of like you studying medicine will not only help you to understand how to heal people but also how to harm them.

    Since the holy energy priets use is mostly not produced by them but also just transferred I always thought of the shadow school spells as a forcefull taking of the holy energies from the target.
    It fits well with the explanation for how holy magic, shadow magic and undeads work together (also, the first blood elf paladins) to see both schools as manipulating the same type of energy which comes in positive and negative from, both oppose each other and upsetting the balance causes harm.

    It explains how they can cause almost the same effects but with a certain twist.

    Even abilities like atonement and vampiric embrance fit in very well.
    Atonement forces holy energies through your enemies causing them harm before spreading out and healing your allies, vampiric embrance takes holy energies from your enemies channeling them trough yourself and using them to heal your allies. Vampiric embrance on undead is kind of a problem though and you would exspect atonement to harm undead more and heal less.
    Last edited by Noradin; 2013-10-20 at 03:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvaelle View Post
    I should really bookmark that post and the couple others I've made so I have something to link when people ask about this


    Edit: Found it surprisingly fast actually!

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...3#post19181353
    not being an ass, but we can clearly see that your assumption on the name "sha" being short for "shadow" fails now that we know there's y'shaarj behind all these

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crudelitas View Post
    not being an ass, but we can clearly see that your assumption on the name "sha" being short for "shadow" fails now that we know there's y'shaarj behind all these
    Just reminds me of a mental brick I have whereby I refer to the fourth boss of SoO as the Shaad of Pry :S God damn words.
    While Diogenes was relaxing in the sunlight in the morning, Alexander, thrilled to meet the famous philosopher, asked if there was any favour he might do for him. Diogenes replied, "Yes, stand out of my sunlight". Alexander then declared, "If I were not Alexander, then I should wish to be Diogenes", to which Diogenes replied, "If I were not Diogenes, I should also wish to be Diogenes."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crudelitas View Post
    not being an ass, but we can clearly see that your assumption on the name "sha" being short for "shadow" fails now that we know there's y'shaarj behind all these
    Um... we knew that back then? The lore of how the Sha came to be was known long before 5.4

    There's a reason they're not "Shaar of _____"
    It was very intentional how they chose to name them.

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    If there was ever an expansion where Shadow Priest could shine in new characters or what not, it would been Mists of Pandaria, now that's over. Cus of the whole darkness within, manifistations, Sha appear, light\darkness(shadow), yeah.

    But we can hope for the Prince of Stormwind to turn Shadowly-evil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnome View Post
    But we can hope for the Prince of Stormwind to turn Shadowly-evil!
    Nah, he's too much of a wimp to be shadow, more like a pansy holy priest. Garrosh should've hit him harder.

    Still, having him go shadow would make an amazing storyline.

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    Anduin would be content with Holy Fire / Smite for the time being. Only way I could see him going Shadow would be if he became King and was fighting a very tough battle.

    Sadly most Priest NPCs who do battle as Priests do so without the aid of Shadowform even when using Shadow damage spells like Mind Sear, Mind Flay, Mind Blast or Mind Spike. It is sad to see the lack of Shadowform outside of players in the game especially when you consider the level of ability and skill that it takes lore-wise to achieve Shadowform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frmercury View Post
    Only way I could see him going Shadow would be if he became King and was fighting a very tough battle.
    You mean this?

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