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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    So even despite the atrocities of both parties during WW2, do you think it's all finally behind us entirely? There's no reason to really look back and view on either America or Japan with disdain for back then? If so, I think I am satisfied. But this was always on my mind. I always wonder if America and Japan still have antagonism towards each other.
    If you have any feelings against a country due to their involvement in a war, then you better be prepared to hate the Germans, the British, hell I think we fought Mexico once. Oh, and I guess all those people in the Northern U.S., since they destroyed our right to enslave people and other stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    unless you were around in WW2 I see no reason to hold a grudge.
    Puck saw things man, terrible things. Tentacles, tentacles and warheads everywhere. Young schoolgirls screaming shrill cries that blocked out the sun and turned my hard man heart to glass while scarring my very soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    So even despite the atrocities of both parties during WW2, do you think it's all finally behind us entirely? There's no reason to really look back and view on either America or Japan with disdain for back then? If so, I think I am satisfied. But this was always on my mind. I always wonder if America and Japan still have antagonism towards each other.
    If you want to know why so many people hate the USA, it is because they think like you. They refuse to move on and instead dwell on the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    If you have any feelings against a country due to their involvement in a war, then you better be prepared to hate the Germans, the British, hell I think we fought Mexico once. Oh, and I guess all those people in the Northern U.S., since they destroyed our right to enslave people and other stuff.
    What disturbs me about your statement is, it seems to indicate how easily humans go to war, decimate each other, then one side loses, and we pretend to forget it ever happened, but eventually, we start it all over again. Does it ever end? It's kind of hopeless, and it would really be sad if we were here again years in the future if a WW3 broke out, discussing the same thing again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    What disturbs me about your statement is, it seems to indicate how easily humans go to war, decimate each other, then one side loses, and we pretend to forget it ever happened, but eventually, we start it all over again. Does it ever end? It's kind of hopeless, and it would really be sad if we were here again years in the future if a WW3 broke out, discussing the same thing again.
    Nah don't worry about it. There's a very large chance that after the next world war we'll all be dead and there will be nothing left but craters and a harsh nuclear winter. Maybe even a dog or two!

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    Anyone hating on any country for past atrocities should be fine with being hated for what his/her country had done/is doing right now. Take as an example iraq/pakistan. I'm sure the pretense of liberating their countries brings back all those innocent civilians, or the fact that g.w.b. and father were in cahoots with saddam and el quaida? Should the americans be hated in general for their "I'm responsible for the whole world, and I dont like what you're doing so I invade"-stuff?

    Heck no! I'd wager millions dislike this policy just as much as the other countries.
    People saying they hate a country for crimes should specify it to a countries' governments crimes, or be labeled as hypocrites, as iraqi soldiers where just following orders too.

    Japan in it's own way is just as fucked up as the rest of the world. They are pretty, courteous on the outside, but the inside is a complete mess. (Social standards and stuff)
    how? Care to explain, because on the outset, Japan looks so cheerful and fun to actually live in.
    My siblings were in japan and told me that while friendly/polite to foreigners, they dont give them much chances from a career POV. Japanese companies aparently prefer japanese employees, dunno if that's some subconcious fear/inferiority complex or w/e, but yeah. For a world becoming more and more globalized, japan is rather heterogeneous in its job market.

    Japanese refer to foreigners as gaijin, which means all of the following: foreigner, non-japanese, outsider, alien
    Apparently they are in the process of using this word less and less, as they realised it as offensive. It is obvious that being referred to as the same as an alient/outsider doesn't seem very hospitable. From what I've gathered, japanese (and some other asian cultures) show emotions and reactions overdrawn/over the top.

    Just imagine you walk a tokyo street and hear "gaijin" whispered around you all the time, just because you stand out.
    Well, that's just what I heard/gathered/think might be the case

    Japan is lit. f*cked up when concerning their xxx-industry. But considering america being the no.1 uploader of porn world-wide by a huge margin, I think they shouldn't be judged to hardly. Many of their fetisches are cross, but yeah

    As for the culinary: From a japanese's POV, cheese is fermented milk and *yuck*
    It really depends on where you're from. Other countries eat dogs, spiders, insects and other stuff. Compared to those, japan isn't all that extraordinary.

    And eating dolphins...at the end of the day, they're animals, just like pigs. Pigs can be really adorable, yet we eat them (we monsters). And what about calfes/lambs?
    They're animal children (even worse then).
    How do you decide which animals are worth more than the other? Are we god or something?

    And in terms of japan/germany and other countries undercutting: Look at our wow auction house. Undercutting 24/7 there. In a capitalist world, you have to do that, to be competitive/out manuveur competition. Just because your country cant figure out to do that itself, doesn't mean others doing it are inherently evil.

    FAZIT: Hating a country/people in general is dumb, because it lumps them together as one and the same. If you're an american (for example) and offended by people seeing you as ignorant of the world and dumb (allthough you are not, and know just as many who aren't), you should know how foolish it is to harbour contempt for a country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    So even despite the atrocities of both parties during WW2, do you think it's all finally behind us entirely? There's no reason to really look back and view on either America or Japan with disdain for back then? If so, I think I am satisfied. But this was always on my mind. I always wonder if America and Japan still have antagonism towards each other.
    In my view, people should focus on future but not remember the hatred, if they did repay for their historical behaviour, they could be forgiven.

    Lessons should be engraved, animosity must be removed.

    Everyone just needs keeping in mind avoid the same thing happens, instead of letting the hating makes the same mistake.

    Or you will see what is happening in the Middle-East.

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    I know Japan did some horrendous stuff doing the war but i believe the sins of the father should not be passed to the son

    TBH i dont give a shit about japan or its culture but i dont hate them and have no reason to ever will
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    I like Japan but torturing their food is a bit much. Let's leave this thing alive while I eat its arms and legs..wtf
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    Just a reminder, we're the ones that dropped nukes on japan in that war. Sure they caused pearl harbor but I think what we did was worse. If anyone should be angry it should be them

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    Who on these forums isn't gonna love Japan. At least for me they are the reason my childhood has amazing memories. Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Sonic, Final Fantasy, etc. Besides I think if anyone holds a grudge beyond the generation that suffered it they are just petty and childish. Governments do stupid retarded things all the time but if we we hold the entirety of a country accountable for the actions of a few hundred making a decision, well the old eye for an eye motto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xalzel View Post
    Maybe not the new Japan. But if you dislike the Nazi's and what they stand for then you better dislike the Empire of Japan (leaders and government. I can SOMEWHAT agree with the idea that the soldiers were 'just following orders' but that's to the same extent that the SS were 'just following orders'.)
    I guess in war, a soldier's task is to follow orders. As to the responsibility of the person giving the orders...

    I've no beef with Japanese or Japan personally. I'm not from USA though, I might imagine over there at least the older folk might hold on to some resentment or even hate. Just human nature to hold on to disliking something because of negative experiences in the past.

    That said, I might imagine not all Japanese like Americans either. Just to keep a neutral perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time Sage View Post
    Just a reminder, we're the ones that dropped nukes on japan in that war. Sure they caused pearl harbor but I think what we did was worse. If anyone should be angry it should be them
    The nukes was bad but just google the rape of Nanking, or what they did to ally soldiers or the experiments they did to chinese children that made Josef Mengele look like santa claus!

    Like i said the sins of the father should never pass to its children as long as the the child learnt the lesson

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    While I don't dislike Japan in general, as an ethnic Korean, I do feel envy towards Japan, as well as China, because it seems like they achieved more as a country than us, same thing with China. In other words, while people recognize China and Japan as the big East Asian countries, both Koreas and Taiwan don't see as much recognition, and North Korea's dictatorship state doesn't help. Also, Korea was never the conquering nation in ancient times, it was only China and Japan.

    Also, as a Hawai'i resident, I don't recall seeing any islanders still hold grudges against Japan for the Pearl Harbor attack, in which the late senator Daniel Inouye probably had a lot to do with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by PBitt View Post
    Yeah...probably not a very good way of asking your question. I personally think Japan is awesome, and just about everyone that isn't Korea or China seems to get along with them just fine these days.
    That's also a peeve, as people associate both Koreas with the crazy North, and not as two seperate nations.
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    Do i hate japan for their attack in 41? No not at all since really we forced their hand at the time. We cut off their oil and left them with two choices. Withdraw from china giving up their gains or attack us and European colony's in a attempt to gain the resources they needed. But other then that i really like japan i enjoy their culture and would really like to visit. Also think their women are damn fine so there is that aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time Sage View Post
    Just a reminder, we're the ones that dropped nukes on japan in that war. Sure they caused pearl harbor but I think what we did was worse. If anyone should be angry it should be them
    Agreed. PH was a military base and potential threat, should the americans have decided to join the war. Ambush is a viable tactic in war times. Nuking civilians on the other hand, even if their government did that war declaration...
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    Love Japanese people, they treat each other with respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combooticus View Post
    The nukes was bad but just google the rape of Nanking, or what they did to ally soldiers or the experiments they did to chinese children that made Josef Mengele look like santa claus!
    Reminds me of guantanamo.
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    It is so easy to predict that it was Salandrin by reading the title.

    This guy cant get enough of opinions that are on his side & he knows this is the place to go fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    While I don't dislike Japan in general, as an ethnic Korean, I do feel envy towards Japan, as well as China, because it seems like they achieved more as a country than us, same thing with China. In other words, while people recognize China and Japan as the big East Asian countries, both Koreas and Taiwan don't see as much recognition, and North Korea's dictatorship state doesn't help. Also, Korea was never the conquering nation in ancient times, it was only China and Japan.

    Also, as a Hawai'i resident, I don't recall seeing any islanders still hold grudges against Japan for the Pearl Harbor attack, in which the late senator Daniel Inouye probably had a lot to do with that.



    That's also a peeve, as people associate both Koreas with the crazy North, and not as two seperate nations.
    I'm pretty sure only the harbour got targeted and those military ships didn't have crews from Hawaii itself, so there is no reason for hawaians to hate Japan.

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