I just did, and people being transparently banned from a VOLUNTARY xrealm pugging tool hardly falls under the category "shaming". Unless a Blue tells us otherwise according to Blizzard's PoV, that is merely your opinion and not actually fact.
The asking for donations part is not exactly comparable to cases like Carbonite, that were PURCHASEABLE.
And even if he removed his little "donate beer!" button in the addon, that has nothing to do with the line of argument that you guys are leading on why it's not fair of him to ban people.
Another reason to hope that someone is working on a decent alternative to oQueue. It'll happen eventually. Pretty much any other time a useful product has become bloated and inconvenient, a better alternative has popped up, and this should be no different. oQueue used to be great, and now it does so many useless and annoying things. Plus the guy that writes the addon has a very toxic attitude, so it's kind of amusing to see him banning people. I've never seen him maintain a positive attitude for more than 3 consecutive posts, and he goes into a frothing rage over the smallest things. So the sooner his addon is replaced as the standard for it's intended purpose, the better.
On the other hand I'd like to see Blizzard implement oQueue features into WoW, and leaving him out of it, which they've done in the past with other popular addons, because the rage from that from him would be amazing.
Don't worry, if you get banned through the addon it's simple enough to fix, and if you're not able you're really not missing much.
Edit: Also the fact that he bans people for his own reasons, he could ban you for whatever he wants. He starts a discussion about his favorite TV show that he considers to be the pinnacle of entertainment, and you casually mention that you're not a fan, banned for trolling! Call him out for standing in the fire, banned for trolling! Or whatever.
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It is not my opinion because harassment is against the ToS and all addons have to follow the Addon and UI policy which includes full compliance with the ToS.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...299?page=7#134 has names, "inappropiate language", and other descriptors attached to those battletags and characters. What part of that does not violate the ToS? How is that not harassment?
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"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
why do this guy keep trying to make oqueue bad? are you the owner or open raid? or something rofl
srsly u must be so mad at this guy for trying too hard in this thread.
oqueue best addon ever. I hope blizzard give this guy a medal and add his addon to wow. srsly, it's the best addon ever by far.
"We live in a world where a style of play that uses posession and passing to try and make spaces is made fun of.
While a style of play where a team sits back for 90 minutes and breaks away in 1v1 situations is respected."
- Ronald Koeman.
"shaming" isn't against anything either.
It's not a blizzard term, it's an mmoc one. And it's banned on FORUMS, not anywhere else. You can call people out in your streams, your homepage, your blog, your youtube, your twitter, your facebook, in game, in your addon, in your application, or with a custom website to call out people.
Totally legit. You guys are straw-grasping, as if Tiny blocking exploiters is anything but a good thing, by WANTING SO VERY HARD it to be against the tos.
It ain't.
What i fail to see so far, is how OP's and others personal opinions about the guy have anything at all to do with the merits/shortcomings of the addon itself.
But I Hate You All, you baselessly accused me of ad hominem attacks against you, when in fact most of your arguing against OQ and the author are nothing but personal judgements about him on your part, and not actual concerns that apply to everyone's "wellbeing" in the game.
The only reason why anyone would argue against the addon or the author here is because either a) they got banned and are annoyed or b) they have something against the author personally. Neither of which make the arguments brought up so far valid.
Now, if Blizzard decides it's too controversial and acts on it, I'd get that just based on the reactions. I don't actually see any basis except insulted people so far, though.
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This. I so far have not seen any evidence, from my PoV, that shows how the AddOn actually violates anything in the ToU or EULA.
Streams, your homepage, your blog, your YouTube, your twitter, your Facebook, or custom website are not governed by the ToS and other applicable policies. At least if you want to be an "official" fan site and community member.
Naming and shaming people in game can lead to action against your account. Addons, even their source code, are governed by policies that prohibit such.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
This is all neither here nor there. Bliz can't have it both ways - they'll complain if people are putting rude group names up on the addon, but won't allow the naming / shaming of the player? No, sorry, doesn't work like that. There needs to be a way to bar specific battle tags from the network, in order to prevent abuse.
Regardless, this addon is, by now, most likely too big for Bliz to ban. Like recount or DBM, if they were to ban it, you'd see a mass exodus of subs. So they won't - at least until they come up with their own equally good alternative.
The creator is a pretty big jackass, no lie about it, but oQueue has good potential.
Unfortunately I can only foresee trouble with being the only arbiter in the way bans are handled, such as folks having a bad day and doing poorly in raids getting the blacklist.
"It's 2013 and I still view the internet on a 560x192 resolution monitor!"
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
exactly. Blizzard has tons of mouthbreathers in LFR, LFD, and random BGs and nothing ever happens to them. They are allowed to be as big a dick and as terrible as they want and can keep on queuing just to ruin the experience of other players and nothing happens ever to them.