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    Healthcare.gov fails to acknowledge GPL'd code

    Obama Administration Uses Pirated Code on Healthcare.gov

    Healthcare.gov is using the open source software DataTables, but they've removed all references to the authors or the original GPL & BSD licenses. Yet another example of how it's ignored when the U.S. government (or those allied with it) breaks the law, but individuals, particularly those who've done something the government disapproves of, are persecuted.

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    Other open source projects used by the ACA website appear to be properly attributed, making it quite likely that the failure to properly include licensing for DataTables is simply an oversight, rather than any sort of malicious action or "statement" to the open source community.

    While the Obama Administration has a far from sterling record on information freedom, this incident is extremely minor. It has no relevance to the merits of the Affordable Care Act. Supporters of the Tea Party appear to be attempting to turn a minor open-source mole-hill into a scandalous mountain completely out of proportion to the original issue.
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    There is a means for infringement claims against the federal government.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1498

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    Skeptical only because disinformation is rampent when it comes to ACA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    Obama Administration Uses Pirated Code on Healthcare.gov

    Healthcare.gov is using the open source software DataTables, but they've removed all references to the authors or the original GPL & BSD licenses. Yet another example of how it's ignored when the U.S. government (or those allied with it) breaks the law, but individuals, particularly those who've done something the government disapproves of, are persecuted.
    Lol'd. Of course it's all Obamas fault, and his government, cos they are all experts in licensing and coding and knew this was happening!

    Try this for size: company hired to make the website, they used pirated code, the blame lies with them and them only. You really think Obama sits at home looking at his websites source code? Get a grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moogogaipan View Post
    Skeptical only because disinformation is rampent when it comes to ACA.
    Not much to be skeptical about. You can look at the javascript file on the healthcare.gov site and see that it is identical to the one on github minus the copyright information.

    github
    healthcare.gov

    What this most likely is, is a case of a private contractor taking credit for the work. I doubt this is under direction of Obama or anyone in his "administration" as is being claimed. There simply is no reason for them to do this unless they are trying to get paid for writing the code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    What this most likely is, is a case of a private contractor taking credit for the work. I doubt this is under direction of Obama or anyone in his "administration" as is being claimed. There simply is no reason for them to do this unless they are trying to get paid for writing the code.
    Plus, the appropriate response is to apologize to the authors, update the files to re-include that copyright statement, and fire whatever company they outsourced the web development to.

    And by "apologize", I mean whoever's in charge of website development on the government side. This isn't the kind of thing any major figure should have to get involved in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Plus, the appropriate response is to apologize to the authors, update the files to re-include that copyright statement, and fire whatever company they outsourced the web development to.

    And by "apologize", I mean whoever's in charge of website development on the government side. This isn't the kind of thing any major figure should have to get involved in.
    exactly this ^

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    The War against the ACA continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    And by "apologize", I mean whoever's in charge of website development on the government side. This isn't the kind of thing any major figure should have to get involved in.
    The government didnt do any website development. Like most things it was contracted out and the website in question was contracted to CGI Federal (a Montreal based company). http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/655291.pdf lists most of the contractors who worked on the program and what parts.
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    I could also see a federal fraud charge against the person responsible. If they charged the government for development they didn't do, bad things should happen to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    The government didnt do any website development. Like most things it was contracted out and the website in question was contracted to CGI Federal (a Montreal based company). http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/655291.pdf lists most of the contractors who worked on the program and what parts.
    Yes, I know this, but there's someone who's in charge of the website project, on the government side. They're the ones who were picking who to contract it out to and so on. I have no idea who it is, my only point is THAT is the person who should apologize to the authors.

    This isn't something the top staff in the administration need to deal with, is my point. It's the responsibility of someone whose title is something like "Community Relations Director for the ACA" or some nonsense.


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    only a liberal would make a stink out of this, oh and a crazy tea party member, wait aren't they all crazy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    The War against the ACA continues.
    it does that by itself so few people have applied and even fewer have enrolled it will destroy itself
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    it does that by itself so few people have applied and even fewer have enrolled it will destroy itself
    That's fine. Because the sequel is a Single-Payer system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    only a liberal would make a stink out of this, oh and a crazy tea party member, wait aren't they all crazy?
    I'd love to hear your moronic logic flow that came to that conclusion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    it does that by itself so few people have applied and even fewer have enrolled it will destroy itself
    Yeah, only half a million applicants in the first 20 days, when the prediction was 7 million by the end of the six month enrollment period.

    At the rate it's going, it'll exceed expectations.


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    Damn you Obama, stealing free open-source software...you will pay for this, you...will..pay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    it does that by itself so few people have applied and even fewer have enrolled it will destroy itself
    No, it doesn't. The only thing that will destroy it is misinformation from the 'enemy'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Yeah, only half a million applicants in the first 20 days, when the prediction was 7 million by the end of the six month enrollment period.

    At the rate it's going, it'll exceed expectations.
    half a million applied they expect 7million enrolled, and according to the insurance guys, people are having to make up to 7 applications before they can enroll, so the number is closer to 100k in 3 weeks, at this rate they could get as many as 2 million!
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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