Japanese Teens not having Sex

[Mormolyce]

Japanese culture is quite stifling, I mean that's what's with all the tentacles and men being crushed by giant shoes and whatever. But I wonder if it's actually more closely related to the social disconnect involved in high density living.

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I don't really see the problem, if they don't feel like having sex why should there be a problem? :>

Japan's fertility rate is one of the lowest in the world. They have 1.3 births per woman, that's way below replacement rate (2, one for the man and one for the woman).

Think about how many old people they have in homes versus young people working to pay for them. Ageing populations are a huge economic problem, we have them in most Western nations as well. And it shows no sign of turning around, this problem will continue to get worse.

[Kraenen]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ped-having-sex

Thoughts?

I'm of the mind it's a little bit odd, the article states that some 25% of men of those ages aren't interested in sex and 45% of women aren't either. Is the repression really so bad over there?

how is it repression? and why would it be bad that they don't want to have sex?

[Mormolyce]

It cracks me up. God forbid we show a non pixelated vagina, but here is a perfectly clear anus in HD.

It's funny isn't it? You can see um... 2 girls 1 cup style of thing but the penises have to be blurred. Because that's the shocking part.

[Yohassakura]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ped-having-sex

Thoughts?

I'm of the mind it's a little bit odd, the article states that some 25% of men of those ages aren't interested in sex and 45% of women aren't either. Is the repression really so bad over there?

Weird, my data says the opposite.

40% of young males are virgins, and 25% of young females.



Personally, I don't really see an issue in this, as long as they have a small, overall population increase at some point.

[Mormolyce]

and why would it be bad that they don't want to have sex?

Is that a serious question? Sex is a natural drive, if you don't have it there's probably something seriously wrong unless you're a member of the small percentage of the population that is asexual.

[Kraenen]

Japanese culture is quite stifling, I mean that's what's with all the tentacles and men being crushed by giant shoes and whatever. But I wonder if it's actually more closely related to the social disconnect involved in high density living.

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Japan's fertility rate is one of the lowest in the world. They have 1.3 births per woman, that's way below replacement rate (2, one for the man and one for the woman).

Think about how many old people they have in homes versus young people working to pay for them. Ageing populations are a huge economic problem, we have them in most Western nations as well. And it shows no sign of turning around, this problem will continue to get worse.

but if the young keep populating the problem will keep reappearing. only way to solve it in the long run is like this.

[Poopymonster]

This is coming from a culture that claims to be more liberal with things like nudity. However, their porn confuses me as they blur all the genitalia and penetration points. I don't get it!

If I recall, public hair is considered "something not shown" or something and most of their local film stars don't shave, so blurs abound.

[Rixis]

Think about how many old people they have in homes versus young people working to pay for them. Ageing populations are a huge economic problem, we have them in most Western nations as well. And it shows no sign of turning around, this problem will continue to get worse.

Isn't eastern culture usually one where putting the elderly into a home is last resort, and the younger generation will actually look after their elderly themselves.

JIf you grow up not being allowed to live out your sexuality and feelings openly, but constantly repress them.. that can't be healthy.

More or less healthy than slutting it up and having 3 kids by the time you're 18?

[Kraenen]

Is that a serious question? Sex is a natural drive, if you don't have it there's probably something seriously wrong unless you're a member of the small percentage of the population that is asexual.

natural drives aren't necessary to satisfy every day. i dont see how it's a bad thing to be interested in other things.

[prwraith]

how is it repression? and why would it be bad that they don't want to have sex?

Sexual repression being what it is. I wonder if the taboo of sex has leaked over an influenced them this way.

Moreso it's bad they don't want to have sex and reproduce because the country will keep declining and lose the ability to support itself more and more per generation if the trend continues.

[Deleted]

Japan's fertility rate is one of the lowest in the world. They have 1.3 births per woman, that's way below replacement rate (2, one for the man and one for the woman).

Think about how many old people they have in homes versus young people working to pay for them. Ageing populations are a huge economic problem, we have them in most Western nations as well. And it shows no sign of turning around, this problem will continue to get worse.

I get that but young ones not wanting to have sex doesn't anything to do with their birth rate, am I right?

[Linkedblade]

Who is to say that those that were polled didn't lie?

[Orcbert]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ped-having-sex

Thoughts?

I'm of the mind it's a little bit odd, the article states that some 25% of men of those ages aren't interested in sex and 45% of women aren't either. Is the repression really so bad over there?

Japan has some freaky stuff going on sexually. In a way, pedophilia is accepted on some terms (certainly a younger age is considered desirable then in America) and even their school uniforms are sexual symbols. They are not exactly invited to come into their feelings on their own but instead are bombarded with sexuality from a young age.

In addition many fetishes involve the woman not having a good time. There is Japanese pornography that is just a pretty woman talking about a horrible sexual experience and crying for goodness sake.

I can see that as a turn off out of the gate.

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Weird, my data says the opposite.

40% of young males are virgins, and 25% of young females.



Personally, I don't really see an issue in this, as long as they have a small, overall population increase at some point.

You've compared a poll of those who've had sex with a poll of those who enjoy it. That's not the same thing.

[Elite Peon]

Now if we can only get China and India populations to get on board with this it would be great ...having half the population of the world in 2 countries is ridiculous

[Adam Jensen]

Good.

People should not have sex until they're mature enough to handle the responsibilities behind it.

Look, I'm no puritan, I don't strictly believe in "no sex before marriage," but people shouldn't be doing it without first thinking about it, about their partner and about what might potentially happen (STDs, pregnancy) and being responsible (using protection, or simply abstaining.) Especially teens, and especially in high school. High schoolers should not be fucking. Grow up first, you'll be sexually active for at least two more decades, if not more, there's plenty of time.

Not saying that all teens are immature, but generally they are, and generally, high school is a bad time to be having sex. College, well, college is different.

I wish the US would follow Japan's example.

[jbombard]

I really don't think it is repression. You may get people not wanting to talk about it to somebody taking a survey but that really is a different issue. Japan has themed "love" hotels people can rent by the hour that have all kinds of nice toys. These hotels are everywhere from residential areas to crowded shopping areas. Some areas you can find signs on the side of the road that say things like "rim jobs available, ask for pricing". There are tons of places offering a variety of services in the entire range, of talking to girls, getting your ears cleaned by a girl dressed up like a maid, oral sex, erotic bathing, and just about anything else. Most Japanese men I have worked with from young to old have been to one of these places at some point another, and I have known a few that spend their entire paychecks on it. The thing is you probably noticed how all of these services are for men only. Yeah it kind of leaves women out of the picture. More and more often you find women concentrating more on career than relationships in Japan. That doesn't mean they aren't having sex however. I think you will find that they are, they just aren't advertising it. You also see women in their 30s-40s hitting panic mode and trying to get married as fast as possible. In my personal anecdotal experience of living in Japan 20+ years, I have never met a prude that was a prude behind closed doors, and it always seems to be the women that appear the most pure that end up being the freaky ones(in a good way). Not wanting to have children is a different story, people are focusing on careers and not starting families when they are younger, by the time they actually find a partner many of them are at the age where it isn't viable anymore, and many stay single. You do see a lot more people having children later in life. The economy being as bad as it is is likely another reason people don't have more children, as it certainly is one of the reasons I have not had another child.

[Collegeguy]

This was taking place in the 90's as well. It's nothing new.

[Mormolyce]

but if the young keep populating the problem will keep reappearing. only way to solve it in the long run is like this.

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The population will continue to age and eventually die out unless the birth rate goes back up to reach equilibrium (ie, 2 for 2). Sub-replacement level birth rates are not a temporary thing.

Isn't eastern culture usually one where putting the elderly into a home is last resort, and the younger generation will actually look after their elderly themselves.

Which makes the economic burden even greater. Two parents to one child. The Japanese have the highest life expectancy in the world too, so four 80 year olds will be living with two 60 year olds in their 40 year old son's house.

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I get that but young ones not wanting to have sex doesn't anything to do with their birth rate, am I right?

Young people are the most fertile group in any country.

[FathomFear]

It hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread (although I could have missed it) but this is the wiki on the phenomenon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men

Herbivore men (草食(系)男子 Sōshoku(-kei) danshi?) is a social phenomenon in Japan of men who shun marriage or gaining a girlfriend.[1] They are characteristically described as frugal, and interested in personal grooming.[2] Under this categorization scheme, men and women are either herbivore type (草食系 sōshoku-kei?) or carnivore type (肉食系 nikushoku-kei?). As of September 2010, 36% of Japanese men between the ages of 16 and 19 perceived themselves in this way.[3] Additionally, two surveys of single men in their 20s and 30s found that 61% and 70%, respectively, considered themselves grass-eating men.[4] This phenomenon is viewed by the Japanese government as a leading cause in the nation's declining birth rate, prompting the government to provide incentives for couples that have children, including payouts and free health care.[5]

[Rixis]

Oh I wasn't arguing that it wouldn't be a burden on someone, just not on the state through running homes.