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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Coldhearth View Post
    In BC, buying your flying mount was a milestone. These days, it's just part of the leveling experience.

    Players are already used to flying. Taking it away at this point in the game or hiding it behind your suggested grind is absurd.

    Your idea is terrible.
    This right here OP. Blizzard have watered the crap out of this game. Hell, you can kill anything on the hardest difficulty but all ya got is gear that is simple a different colour to someone who afk-ed through LFRs. I wish blizz had kept the sense of achievement in the game...they surely wouldn't be bleeding subs left right and centre if they had. I do not say they should have made the game harder and harder...just kept the feeling of achievement....
    WoW was a great game once...

  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by igame View Post
    This right here OP. Blizzard have watered the crap out of this game. Hell, you can kill anything on the hardest difficulty but all ya got is gear that is simple a different colour to someone who afk-ed through LFRs. I wish blizz had kept the sense of achievement in the game...they surely wouldn't be bleeding subs left right and centre if they had. I do not say they should have made the game harder and harder...just kept the feeling of achievement....
    WoW was a great game once...
    OMG only a different color!? You should probably fill out a bug report so blizzard knows you got raid gear with LFR stats on it, you would be loosing 20-30 ilevels on every single piece of gear you get!!! I mean the performance of raid gear is so much better than LFR gear, I hope they replace that raid gear with LFR stats on it for you quickly because there is such a noticeable performance difference between LFR gear and Raid gear, especially Heroic raid gear. Go fill out a bug report right naow!

  3. #283
    Make it as expensive as you'd like - it still won't change the fact that flying mounts are no longer required for anything except optional dailies and reps (and even then, it's just a convenience). I've leveled a character (slowly, over a long period of time) by doing JC dailies without moving outside SW, and when you can queue for everything from the comfort of [CURRENT CAPITAL CITY], it really spotlights how unnecessary to game play flying mounts truly are.

  4. #284
    This idea is invalidated by the fact that nowadays it's pretty easy to farm gold, unless you're "i have a life" kinda of fellow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold21 View Post
    unless you're "i have a life" kinda of fellow
    90% of the playerbase says hello!
    BAD WOLF

  6. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by Xarnius View Post

    Then you'd have to save up for loads and loads, which is EXACTLY OP's point. I don't think they should make it so you need to farm for 3 months, but I really think they should give us a 50k cost for next expansion's flying skill, and give us cheaper mounts instead. I haven't had 50k at once either, but it's not even hard.(I got to 20k in like 2days in cata, 50k in MoP isn't hard) 50k would do so that only your main(or if you're rich, alts) would be able to fly, and you'd have to FARM FARM FARM! Again, we'd need something to farm. In Wotlk I farmed stuff like the essences of fire, so we should get more endgame items that require farming.
    e.g. once again that would DIScourage alts, the mistake they already made. Never going to happen.

  7. #287
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    Quote Originally Posted by igame View Post
    This right here OP. Blizzard have watered the crap out of this game. Hell, you can kill anything on the hardest difficulty but all ya got is gear that is simple a different colour to someone who afk-ed through LFRs. I wish blizz had kept the sense of achievement in the game...they surely wouldn't be bleeding subs left right and centre if they had. I do not say they should have made the game harder and harder...just kept the feeling of achievement....
    WoW was a great game once...
    WoW was never difficult - unless you consider needles inconveniences as difficulty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold21 View Post
    This idea is invalidated by the fact that nowadays it's pretty easy to farm gold, unless you're "i have a life" kinda of fellow
    When did having a life become punishable

  8. #288
    That's a terrible idea. You'd have all the gold-buying clowns flying around making it impossible for normal players to get profession mats.

  9. #289
    How about no?
    If YOU dont want to fly, why should everyelse be forced to it

    And by ur name i feel that due to flying u used to gank ppl, sorry i ment to call it "world pvp", but cant anymore, terrible aint it?
    And if u needed to farm for MONTHS for 280% flying back in TBC u did it wrong, i had mine after 3weeks after i hit 70
    I put the laughter in manslaughter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rixis View Post
    Being a druid, you mean all 2 gold flying cost?
    It was actually roughly 500g I believe for 60% flying for druids. (note: before wotlk when 60% increased to 150%)

  11. #291
    Yeah....... how about a no. Bad idea, really bad.
    '"Can your blood atone for genocide, orc? Your Horde killed countless innocents with its rampage across Stormwind and Lordaeron. Do you really think you can just sweep all that away and cast aside your guilt so easily? No, your kind will never change, and I will never stop fighting you."
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  12. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Vouksh89 View Post
    If they did that, I probably would either just stop playing completely, or, at the most, sit in the city with nothing to do. I don't have the time, nor the willpower to grind reputations. Valor is bad enough; I don't need 300 other currencies to grind at the same time. I've been playing far too long to deal with crap like that again.
    Sweet! Way to kick casuals out of the game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gee View Post
    Sweet! Way to kick casuals out of the game!
    And bankrupt Blizzard forcing WoW to become F2P and removal of servers completely

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    And bankrupt Blizzard forcing WoW to become F2P and removal of servers completely
    "But catering to hardcores will gain the game billions of subscriptions because players like to look up to hardcores."
    ^ That's the argument you'll get. I've heard it countless times.

    Apparently the average player pays 15 bucks a month to watch people who don't have commitments outside of the game have fun. I love to log on after work and /worship players from the top raiding guild, and then place the fruits of my crafting professions on the AH for a substantial loss so that they can go raid some more while I cook dinner.

    "Blah blah blah entitlement mentality".

    IF Expecting a complete gaming experience in exchange for parting with your money, which happens to be the exact same amount of money as everybody else, regardless of your skill level, or amount of time available to commit to said game = sense of entitlement.

    THEN Expecting the financial support of the entire player base in order to fund the development of exclusive content for you (but not them) just because they don't have as much spare time to spend playing WoW = ????


    (Also, because a casual player takes longer to progress through the content, a casual player ACTUALLY PAYS MORE FOR THE EXACT SAME CONTENT, than a hardcore player who has it all down the same week it comes out)
    If the obvious fallacies behind the "special snowflake" arguments don't stop them from existing in the first place, I think every thread of the nature should be auto-closed because there's really nothing to debate. There's no getting through to them.
    Last edited by Gheld; 2013-10-26 at 06:00 PM.

  15. #295
    Getting epic flying in BC wasn't difficult, and it didn't take months. It took me about a week or a little more if I remember right to get epic flying on both my 70's back then just denching craftable JC rings and necks and AH'ing the mats, all it took was farming ore.

    Even in vanilla it wasn't too difficult getting epic riding using enchanting, back then there was no skill level requirement to dench items, we'd all use level 1 alts to dench BoE's.

  16. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by Frolk View Post
    How about no?
    If YOU dont want to fly, why should everyelse be forced to it

    And by ur name i feel that due to flying u used to gank ppl, sorry i ment to call it "world pvp", but cant anymore, terrible aint it?
    And if u needed to farm for MONTHS for 280% flying back in TBC u did it wrong, i had mine after 3weeks after i hit 70

    The game includes competition between players. Nobody will self-restrict themselves from convenience just because they disapprove of laziness.

    You did not have to farm for months for mount in TBC. I was a new player and I got my mount within a week or so. Just do couple quests, leveling up always gives lot of gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gheld View Post
    (Also, because a casual player takes longer to progress through the content, a casual player ACTUALLY PAYS MORE FOR THE EXACT SAME CONTENT, than a hardcore player who has it all down the same week it comes out)
    If the obvious fallacies behind the "special snowflake" arguments don't stop them from existing in the first place, I think every thread of the nature should be auto-closed because there's really nothing to debate. There's no getting through to them.
    I love this statement.

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    Yeahhh... No. If it was account wide, sure.

    Epic flying in TBC was something totally new and the first time to achieve it. Sort of like epic mounts in vanilla. Once TBC rolled around they were far easier to obtain.
    After TBC flying lost its spot on "THIS IS TOTALLY AWESOME!$@!" Chair. It was just a feature that we had to keep paying for to use it in said area. No one really like having to pay gold each time around just to use a feature in a certain area. Yes it's been cheap to unlock it for a zone since wotlk. If it cost 50,000 Just to use the damn mount(s) you've had for years in the new zone(s) That'd be beyond stupid and just piss a lot of people off sorry.

    A better idea would be adding another cool feature like epic flying for a gold sink. Like idk sailing or something along those lines I guess (Not saying Sailing should be a feature).

    p.s Epic flying didn't take months if you knew what you were doing to make the gold(I Wasn't among those people though haha). Netherdrakes on the other hand took a bit if you couldn't farm eggs
    Last edited by Renx; 2013-11-05 at 04:26 PM.

  19. #299
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    A bit of perspective people

    Flying was never a milestone in TBC. Only EPIC FLYING was a milestone, even then it was because you grinded 1 month doing repetitive crap. The only time a mount was a milestone was during Vanilla, that ended 6 years ago

  20. #300
    I tell you what should be very expensive in the next expansion: PvP.

    Yeah, PvP. It ruins PvE with its stupid skill balances and nerfs and I'm tired of it messing up how I think the game should be.

    So to punish the people who dare to play in ways I don't like, they should be forced to do some arbitrary hoop-jumping driven by ludicrous amounts of in-game grind to do their stupid waste of dev resources thing I don't like.

    Yeah, so every time you wanna attack another player in the open world? 100G.

    For every level that player is under you? 100G.

    Any time you wanna enter some PvP thing, Battleground/Arena/whatever? 100G.

    Yeah, that sounds totally fair and balanced to me, someone who never PvP's at all! Now why isn't Blizzard listening to my sheer and utter brilliance? They'd get literally billions of subs back off my ingenious concept!

    /satire

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