OT: time, and disinterest in raiding with the one asshat who always thinks everyone is shit and he's awesome, no he's not an elitist, he just THINKS he is.
Seriously, if i have to listen to one more pisshead try to have a go at me b/c I haven't got such and such yet...fuck, like I can make it drop if it just doesn't.
Yah okay buddy, let me get out my i win dice that forces the loot table to drop the upgrade that pisshead seems to think I should already have or leave the raid.
(true story, and no I was not in blues or greens, nor was it impacting my performance, this asshole picked someone new every week, and since it just wouldn't drop, I was his fav for 2 weeks until I put him on ignore...this person, was an officer.)
Who needs it? Not I.
I wonder if he bitches at the lack of tanks while always being on their case still, while playing a toon that could tank, while not tanking?
At any rate, he caused more wipes then most people.
Just left me with a bad taste for hardmodes, having to deal with the attitude cases.
The actual hardmode raiding is fun.
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Proof that the mmochamp community can be a bitter and lonely place. What a shame.
I have a multitude of reasons.
I started playing this game in 2004. 20 years old. I'm 29 now. I'm a Salaried Systems Admin that's married and has a family.
I had a majority of the "elite" titles in previous expansions -- Firelord, 15% Madness/Spine, Four Winds, etc. etc. Up until end of Cata I always have been a high parsing, ranking Ret Paladin for many years and I have never had an issue with my ability to play this game or optimize my toon.
Basically, it boils down to the fact I have to be at the top of the progression chain or nothing. I feel as I'm not accomplishing what I want if I can't clear the Heroic content, and clearing that content at a level of a full Heroic clear while relevant requires more than 2 nights/6 hours a week. So I quit, because:
A) I can't do more than 2 nights/6 hours a week
B) Because of A, I'm not going to get the fufillment I want to out of the game, personally. And even then, it becomes a pain in the ass to be permanently obligated to be glued to your chair for 3 hours at times.
This, on top of the fact I'm on call alot of times for a 24/7 environment -- just makes me a pain in the ass to deal with logistically for alot of guilds.
If the game suddenly found some resolution to make it easier to accomplish this in a smaller frame of time while keeping the skill ceiling needed involved, I'd be all over it as I love raiding in this game. I know that's not likely to happen though.
This is almost my same exact situation, except I settled for LFR.
I grew up, have a family which is a 24/7 job that is more important than WoW. I'm also a salaried systems admin that at any time can get a call that I need to remote in for. I raided a few times and got the call, then decided that I just can't expect the guild to wait while I take care of an issue.
If you cannot find a time to raid that does not negatively impact the rest of your life, then you probably shouldn't be raiding.
There are plenty of solid, progressive guilds that start raids right after dinner time and end right around "bed time" for the working adult. Most of them, actually. That's why it was so hard for me to find a solid guild in the past. I worked 8-5 one week, then 12-9 the next, alternating. Most guilds raid during the week within the hours listed. I finally found a guild raiding weekends, and it was perfect for me, because my daughters were in bed, and some of us choose to enjoy time at home instead of out at the bars, etc.
To be fair, I do raid normal, and sometimes have success at it. I don't raid heroic because to be frank I've never been in a guild that could do heroic without it being nerfed (think Firelands/DS). Now at the cost of coming off like an arrogant ass, I think I could raid at the heroic level at high level (not anywhere near like Method or Blood Legion level of course, I mean more like US 100-200 level) if I was given the opportunity to do so, but that never happens because I don't get heroic experience (if I get any at all) or gear fast enough to be of use to those guilds or generally to even be noticed by them, and while I know not all of them do it I'd rather not feel "forced" to be online 4-5 nights a week for x many hours a day. I generally only log on for raids or if I'm just chilling with people.
Trying to find a guild at the beginning of a tier when you're undergeared is usually not going to go very well, because they don't have the time to spend gearing you up. Come in right near the end of a tier, find a HM guild that has lost a raider or two, take their spot, let them carry you to prepare for the next tier. Again, you'd have to prove that you're capable of maximizing your potential for them to accept you, but as long as you can do that, at the end of a tier they'd usually be willing to carry you for gear to prep for the next tier.
I don't raid normals or heroics because ever since the addition of guild leaders being stripped after 3 months of inactivity, it has switched to someone in our guild who's a complete cock.
-- The guy thinks he's badass even though he's a crap DPS and no legendary cloak. On his main, no less.
-- He promoted his GF to co-leader and his bestest friends to officers, and demoted most of the other guildies to members.
-- He raped the guild vault of 200,000 gold and most of the flasks and useful stuff that was for our old raid team. It came to the point where we had no gold to pay for guild repair bills.
-- Despite not trying to recruit and pissing off a lot of the old raiders, he still expects to try and put together a 10 man raid group. With only one tank (me) and no healers.
Back to the question at hand, I can't raid because I can't tank anymore. By that I mean I now suck at tanking because I haven't tanked since Cataclysm. Honestly, I couldn't even tank Mogushan when it was current content. So I only have a tank spec when me and friends wanna do old content or whatever. So I'm kinda stuck with Retribution spec atm, which no one wants.
I only stick around this guild because of the perks. Should a melee DPS spot open up in another guild then I'm game.
Oh and, if there were any guildies left to set an example for, then fair enough. But most have already left.
I did scheduled raiding back in Wrath, don't really want to commit to something like that again.
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