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    Perfect gems, failure?

    So I have JC and when I prospect my ores Im getting alot green gems that often turns later into perfect cuts. The problem is, on my server they are useless. Noone is buying them even when the price is much lower than the "normal gems" from blues. Its seems that everyone just looking at AH for the "normal cuts" and do not bother checking the alternatives.

    So from now Im making only gems that I use on my lock but I have too much of them now and cant really sell them. Was trying sell them on trade but none responded and I dont have time to spend 2h advertising gems on trade.

    What do you guys think, is this failure from economic perspective? Or maybe your realm is different and you dont have problems with selling them?

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    The more popular perfect cuts sell on my server, although a little slower than the regular versions. They are generally 5-10g cheaper.

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    Well, I have some 'comments' on the Perfect cut.

    1. Chicken or the Egg
    Blizz wanted to gve JCr's a chance to make some profit from cutting green qulity gems. Ok, I can understand this. It gives people a chance while leveling to make some money or people who don't have an alchemist to have a chance to make cuts and be able to sell them. What happens I feel is that it end up on the AH side a dilution of the cuts to sell. Normally, i just xmute the raw cuts and then sell them.

    2. Profession Perk
    Well, I feel it's a noble perk to have a chance to say "Well, I don't have any raws, so I'll cut till I get some perfects" than vendor the green cuts. I feel it would have been better to have this perk better served some other way. One way (just off the top of my head) would be making the perfects only for JCr's, but then people couldn't sell on AH (above). However, this helps the situation where the gems cut on the AH would get some price increase on AH (not by very much).

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    Problem 1: Expecting instantaneous profit
    Problem 2: Limiting production to a single class' preferrred stats
    Problem 3: Auction house lacks proper filtering for gems

    The gems arent so much a failure, as the players not using them when they're cheaper are.
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    Most of my friends search for "delicate primordial".
    I always search for "delicate".

    So the players are the problem, not the gems.
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    My opinion is that the biggest problem is the naming of the gems - if you don't have a JC then you don't know what name to search for to find the perfect gems. Once you know about the name of the blue rarity version you'll just keep searching for that.

    A better solution would have been when you proc a perfect gem you actually get the blue equivalent instead of a "third" gem.

    Edit: The post above me is exactly what i'm trying to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptRik View Post

    A better solution would have been when you proc a perfect gem you actually get the blue equivalent instead of a "third" gem.
    Oh this would be perfect solution, instead making "Perfect XX" they should just turn into normal blue gems.

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    Or.... Use your greenies for Primal Diamonds.. since 5x are required to purchase the legendary meta, I would expect the market for these would be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yindoo View Post
    Most of my friends search for "delicate primordial".
    I always search for "delicate".

    So the players are the problem, not the gems.
    This is what I do as well, using auctionator it will show all of the items with that name and their lowest price, so I can see if a sensei's wild jade or the perfect cut is cheaper. Sadly lately it seems that people have gone stupid and are putting the perfect cuts up for 2-3x the price of the regular blue cuts.
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    I think most people don't even know they exist.

    I discovered their existence a few weeks ago

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    I ended up keeping them, and Xmute them (xmutemaster) with Golden Lotus to rare gem. There were days when I prospected 500-600 stacks of GIO, but nowadays I rather buy GL if it's cheap (and grow them on my farms).

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    When i do the ore shuffle, i use the green quality gems in the following ways:

    Orange transmute to vermilion onyx with a golden lotus
    Red,Green and Purple to make the shadowfire necklace, sell the blue quality 415 necks and vendor or DE the green quality ones
    Yellow gems cut and use myself as i have a lot of tanks (crit/mastery and haste all good) then sell the perfects that are left and vendor the normal ones
    Blue gems i just vendor (if i can be bothered i cut them to sell for a little more)

    Really perfect cuts as mentioned above, most people don't search for and as i shuffles in the range of thousands of stacks a week you get overwhelmed with the green quality if you don't have a plan.

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    Whenever I need gems, I just get the cheapest ones. I don't give a rats ass if it's a perfect cut, or a normal rare one.

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    I agree with the above - it's just cumbersome to search for gems in the AH. When the difference in cost is only ~10-20g, most will just go for whichever they see first.

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    I don't think that it was a failure, but that could be simply due to the fact that people on my server had no idea how much a stack of uncut green gems was really worth. I was constantly buying red/blue/yellow (occasionally green/purple/orange, too, but no where near as often) stacks for 20g each, cutting them, vendoring the green cuts for around 15g and then selling the perfect ones on the AH for 100g+. It was just stupid profit.

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    They clutter your armory page. Also even though they might be cheaper than the regular versions at times, there are rarely many of them up at the same time so you are still forced to fill in sockets with regular gems.

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    Well what I do is not whine about it but take matters into my own hands:

    I offer JC service at low cost and when people come to me with raw blue Gems I give them perfect green cuts. They leave the trade window open for ten seconds or so, checking what this weird Gem might be at first, but accept it later after figuring out that perfect cuts are eqiuivalent. They learn about perfect green cuts in the process and will check the Auction House for them in the future.
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    One question that springs to mind: why are you cutting the common uncut gems? Should be making them into necklaces/rings then DEing them on an alt or paying an enchanter.

    *assuming you're trying to make gold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yindoo View Post
    Most of my friends search for "delicate primordial".
    I always search for "delicate".

    So the players are the problem, not the gems.
    This. Exactly what I do as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Crusader Absalom View Post
    One question that springs to mind: why are you cutting the common uncut gems? Should be making them into necklaces/rings then DEing them on an alt or paying an enchanter.
    Well for Example I use mostly as few Ore as possible to get green orange/purple/green gems for transmuting to the blue gems, and the Items require either Serpent's eyes of which I haven't many due to acquiring as few ore as possible or an orange green gem which I prefer to use for a blue transmute.
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