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China, because they're going to mass troops in Mexico to invade with
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All you'd be doing is fighting a guerilla insurgency against an effectively unlimited opposition. I'm sure a few would love to fulfil their Rambo fantasy, but the war would be over for all intents and purposes.
Btw, i'd say that in the Winter War, the Finnish army, which was much better trained and much better directed, who knew the land and knew how to take advantage of it, had had something to do with the Soviet defeat. The insurgency in the occupied cities helped to make the logistic mess the Soviets had gotten into even worse. But if there had been no army of Finland, it would have been of little consequence.
Never in human history has civilian armed resistance been able to defeat an invading standing army. And i know "never" is a strong word, but that's how things are. Insurgencies only work when they do the guerrilla part of the warfare and they have a standing army on their side.
ETA.- If the chinese get to the point of movilizing conscripts (which are no less trained than american conscripts, i.e. a lot more than your midwestern civilian), you realize that China has a population base of 1.5 billion people? What exactly do you know about chinese military training to hold them in such contempt?
Oh and I am American, btw. I wonder why I don't agree with Kalyyn...
The U.S. would win hands down, China doesn't have the resources, both financially and militarily to run a campaign against the U.S. It would be a horrible war no doubt with no winner but China wouldn't really stand much of a chance. Now, China and Russia on the other hand that would be a different story.
Disregarding a situation in which things go nuclear (in which case, everyone loses), it'd be America. Numbers ultimately count for little when we bear in mind that North Korea does technically have the world's largest standing military with respect to land forces. Americans have superior technology and weaponry, which is where it really counts.
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Let's take a look:
Has a massive population, and as such, their military outnumbers us when counting bodies
While China's borders make it a large country, 99% of the population lives along the coast
Their Navy is fairly outdated
Massive defense budget, and as such, our gear is mostly up-to-date
Has two coasts, and population is spread along most of the country instead of bundled up
We have far, far more anti-nuke tech guarding our country than most people realize
If, somehow, China managed to get its troops onto US soil, there really isn't a whole lot we could do without major sacrifice and loss. With sheer swarm tactics, they would take us out in a matter of weeks, and that's saying we threw everything we had at them. Barring that, China would never get that many people onto our soil, especially by sea; our Navy is literally everywhere at all times. And since their Navy tech is outdated (they actually buy a lot of decommissioned WWII era ships from us and actually USE them...) they wouldn't stand much of a chance. They might, MIGHT be able to take Hawaii, but I doubt it. Their air force is in pretty much the same state, although they seem to be more focused on updating ground and air tech than Navy. But again, that requires them crossing an ocean to get to us...their stealth tech (going purely by what's public knowledge, granted) is nothing compared to ours, so fat chance of getting any sort of bomber/troop transport over here.
Now, bringing nukes into the situation, they again wouldn't stand a chance. If both countries lobbed every single nuke at each other all at once (which isn't really possible, there are more missiles than launchers), we would shoot down many of them, if not all of them. And since most of China's population, e.g. economy, is all along that one coast, we only have to get a few nukes through to do some serious damage to them. The damage to the US would most likely be pretty bad if some managed to detonate on target, but nowhere near as bad as if they hit China. If they took out our entire west coast, the rest of the country would still function.
And, of course, the fact that the US is wholly paranoid. We'd know about anything before it even started, and do everything we could both politically and militarily to stop it. I HIGHLY DOUBT either country would resort to nukes, as it is more or less general knowledge of what the sort of fallout would entail for the rest of the world. This hypothetical scenario is also disregarding the other countries that would step in to help either side out.
The Global War on Terror has only taken 10+ years because we have to follow rules.
It would have been known as the 12-Day War if it was completely savage, anything-goes combat. And it'd only take that long because the enemy lives in caves instead of well-marked military barracks.
With China, I'd give it <48 hours (hacking takes maybe 12 hours, + an extra 6 hours for some well-placed nukes, and an extra 30 hours to pad the timetable).
In total unrestricted, conventional war? (no nukes).
It would have be a fight-for-survival scenario like the 2nd world war (and this scenario is unlikely to play out without going nuclear). I don't think todays America has the chops for a long brutal campaign overseas. And I don't mean skirmishes like Iraq and Afghanistan (no offense to todays soldiers) but this America would fold after the first major amphibious assault or major push that saw casualties in the tens of thousands in a single action. The politics would tear the country apart and they would crumble and withdraw. Their greatest generation that ever lived is long dead.
I think with air and naval superiority the US could wreck China as a functioning world power but lacks the political will and ruthlessness required to subjugate nations and truly end a war like they did Japan and Germany.
Yea! Let's bash some nations!.. Oh wait..
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.
I feel like neither side would be able to get enough troops over to take and hold anything. When it comes to Military v. Military, China has numbers and production, the U.S. has technology and the potential for a draft. Total war is a terrifying thing, though incredibly rare.
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China would win. They can send wave after wave of bodies at it.
America would have it's current military, then maybe 300-400 thousand more that volunteered or got drafted, and 150 million pussies, oh I'm sorry, "conscientious objectors".
Apply blizzards model to any other subscription service,you'd be outraged:
Netflix adds no new movies for a year, you click a new movie, there's a $5 fee.
You're in an accident, click your onstar button, but there's an addition $20 fee for them to help.
You turn on your tv only to find all you get are the infomercial channels. Every other show is pay per view.
See how dumb that model is?