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  1. #41
    oqueque keeps stats, and almost all of them are within 55-45% range. I think Strands of the Ancients is the only one that is really crazy favored for Alliance. Most of them are slightly favored to horde though.

    Temple was strange for me. I lost 4 times in a row and didn´t even get close to winning, then on the 5th try, we crushed them (different pugs) and I even got a bunch of achievements. The Mine I won the first game and it took me half of it just to figure out how it worked.

    But the biggest advice I can give you is that both of these are NOT AV... your individual contribution will matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchmagoz View Post
    Sir, you are lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asthreon View Post
    Well of course im a common denominator.

    Are you implying that if I wasn't in those Matches I could win those Matches?

    Derp.
    Lol, You sir are the one who just derped
    He very, very clearly meant without you, those BGs could've been won, Not that you would've won if you wasn't there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Stark
    They say that the best weapon is the one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once. That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far. I present to you the newest in Stark Industries' Freedom line. Find an excuse to let one of these off the chain, and I personally guarantee, the bad guys won't even wanna come out of their caves. Ladies and gentlemen, for your consideration... the Jericho.

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    Nice made up numbers, and why do you want the legendary anyway? To do LFR?

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    I see what Blizzard did there, they wanted to show players who don't care about PvP that Pandaland has two cool new Battlegrounds, but this quest is indeed a bottleneck potentially for some very unlucky fellows. In the nature of randomness there are always some people left who just never get into a winning group.

    The Developers should have made this Quest something like "Either win one Battle or participate in ten" with unluck streaks in mind.


    Sidenote: When you LFM for this then the members you find are also PvE Heroes who want their one win, not the best company :-)
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  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Asthreon View Post
    To be fair, they are right, you are lying. From your OP:

    In the past 2 weeks I have done 37 Silvershard Mine battles and 23 Temple of Kotmogu. Have won 0 of them.
    You've won 4/38 of your SSM BGs, but you said you did 37 and lost all of them.

    i have no problem believing that you've lost a chunk of them trying to finish this quest, but I seriously doubt it's anywhere near the number you're stating, and you're just over exaggerating as people are want to do on the internet.

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    in bgs due to the amount of people afk/ not really caring it usually just takes one or two good player to build enough enthusiasm to wake the rest of the team up as well...

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Anko View Post
    Nice made up numbers, and why do you want the legendary anyway? To do LFR?


    Does noone actually read through the thread before they post, already posted this twice now.

    And I don't do LFR anymore, I do Flex and N with my Guild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britishbubba View Post
    To be fair, they are right, you are lying. From your OP:



    You've won 4/38 of your SSM BGs, but you said you did 37 and lost all of them.

    i have no problem believing that you've lost a chunk of them trying to finish this quest, but I seriously doubt it's anywhere near the number you're stating, and you're just over exaggerating as people are want to do on the internet.
    Yet another person who did not read the entire thread, where I also said :

    Quote Originally Posted by Asthreon View Post
    The few wins I have of the BG's in question were from the Start of MoP when they were still new, even the few achieves I have from them are dated Dec 2012/Jan 2013.

    As you can see I have terrible luck across most, Isle of Conquest and Warsong being my only good ratio BG's.
    Also as an Update, have lost another 4 Silvershards!! since starting this Thread, bringing it up to a Nice 41 losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asthreon View Post
    Just seems backwards to make PvE'rs do PvP.
    not at all. PvP is part of every MMO. the story of WoW is BASED on a conflict between the alliance and the horde (~PvP). get over it.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Asthreon View Post
    Yet another person who did not read the entire thread, where I also said :
    That doesn't remove the fact that if you've done 37 since you started the quest and lost all of them, you can't have 38 entered, with 4 won. If you have 41 played and won 4, then you'd be left with the magic number of 37 losses in SSM that could make it right, but no, that's not the amount you've played.

    I did read the thread, you just don't know math.

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    Crazy streak of bad luck. Did 2, won 2....anecdotal evidence and all.

    BTW..I am sure others are giving up and have given up on the "Thunder Forge" solo scenario, if the over 100 comments on wowhead to this quest are to believed.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    One cause is a cognitive bias called projection bias. Essentially living inside your own head your entire life makes it exceedingly difficult to understand how others do not also live your same life, think your same thoughts, and hold your same beliefs. In many cases it's quite frustrating to try to empathize and understand why you yourself may not be the center of the universe, which generally results in one 'acting out' in various ways.
    So, in short: the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asthreon View Post
    And I don't do LFR anymore, I do Flex and N with my Guild.
    If you are doing flex and normal with your guild, why not ask them to do a few BGs with you to help out? At the end of the day an extra player with Legendary is a team asset (regardless of your level of progression).

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    >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anko View Post
    Nice made up numbers, and why do you want the legendary anyway? To do LFR?
    What is the point of this kind of toxic posts? Even if OP does the legendary questline just to parade the cloak in a city - what business of yours is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgummage View Post
    If you are doing flex and normal with your guild, why not ask them to do a few BGs with you to help out? At the end of the day an extra player with Legendary is a team asset (regardless of your level of progression).
    Finally a sensible suggestion.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    One cause is a cognitive bias called projection bias. Essentially living inside your own head your entire life makes it exceedingly difficult to understand how others do not also live your same life, think your same thoughts, and hold your same beliefs. In many cases it's quite frustrating to try to empathize and understand why you yourself may not be the center of the universe, which generally results in one 'acting out' in various ways.
    So, in short: the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britishbubba View Post
    That doesn't remove the fact that if you've done 37 since you started the quest and lost all of them, you can't have 38 entered, with 4 won. If you have 41 played and won 4, then you'd be left with the magic number of 37 losses in SSM that could make it right, but no, that's not the amount you've played.

    I did read the thread, you just don't know math.
    Ahh You are right there, Seems I forgot to remove the 4, So it was 33 Losses. But as I just stated, I've lost 4 since this thread started, which brings it up to the number anyway :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asthreon View Post


    Does noone actually read through the thread before they post, already posted this twice now.

    And I don't do LFR anymore, I do Flex and N with my Guild.

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    Yet another person who did not read the entire thread, where I also said :



    Also as an Update, have lost another 4 Silvershards!! since starting this Thread, bringing it up to a Nice 41 losses.
    Learn some maths, You have NOT Lost 37 when you made this thread, and your numbers PROVE that, 38 battles, with 4 wins, Means it is literaly impossible to have lost 37, You can only have lost 34 at that point, seriously, Inflating your numbers to make it sound more dramatic is one of the most stupid things to do on this forum, because then noone's going to believe the crap you say.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Stark
    They say that the best weapon is the one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once. That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far. I present to you the newest in Stark Industries' Freedom line. Find an excuse to let one of these off the chain, and I personally guarantee, the bad guys won't even wanna come out of their caves. Ladies and gentlemen, for your consideration... the Jericho.

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by mrgummage View Post
    If you are doing flex and normal with your guild, why not ask them to do a few BGs with you to help out? At the end of the day an extra player with Legendary is a team asset (regardless of your level of progression).
    I've asked a few times, usually get no response or a "I'm busy" or a "Nah I don't PvP/Don't have PvP gear" response.

    Also being Alliance people generally scoff at Silvershard.

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    >.<
    A MAN THAT KNOWS MY PAIN!

    43.. Damn. and here I thought 37 was bad.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Asthreon View Post


    Does noone actually read through the thread before they post, already posted this twice now.

    Yet another person who did not read the entire thread, where I also said :



    Also as an Update, have lost another 4 Silvershards!! since starting this Thread, bringing it up to a Nice 41 losses.
    He read, but with that screendump you couldn't have lost more than 34 in row, so instead of insulting everybody, because most don't believe you, you might want to read it carefully first and then answer in the appropriate way.

    Seems like terrible luck, regardless. I rerolled to a lvl 88 char in start of june, and i got the 600 cloak before 5.4 hit, and legendary the day it hit.
    Do as we do for the bgs. Go with a couple of friends. We have some that likes pvp, so it wasn't hard, and it makes it a lot easier.

    Koto is easy enough. Just keep going for the orb, die, go back for orb, die, orb, die, orb, die, orb, tell others they will lose if they don't start taking orb, and keep saying how many free orbs there is so they don't forget and keep the rotation of orb/die up. It's a very fun bg!
    >.>
    Well. It works, but the bg sucks. Silvershard is great fun, and even 2-3 people, specially with a healer, can change it tremendously.

    Edit:
    Ah. Shame with people not wanting to help you out.
    Everyone has so much to say
    They talk talk talk their lives away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terridon View Post
    He read, but with that screendump you couldn't have lost more than 34 in row, so instead of insulting everybody, because most don't believe you, you might want to read it carefully first and then answer in the appropriate way.

    Seems like terrible luck, regardless. I rerolled to a lvl 88 char in start of june, and i got the 600 cloak before 5.4 hit, and legendary the day it hit.
    Do as we do for the bgs. Go with a couple of friends. We have some that likes pvp, so it wasn't hard, and it makes it a lot easier.

    Koto is easy enough. Just keep going for the orb, die, go back for orb, die, orb, die, orb, die, orb, tell others they will lose if they don't start taking orb, and keep saying how many free orbs there is so they don't forget and keep the rotation of orb/die up. It's a very fun bg!
    >.>
    Well. It works, but the bg sucks. Silvershard is great fun, and even 2-3 people, specially with a healer, can change it tremendously.

    Edit:
    Ah. Shame with people not wanting to help you out.
    Yeah I said I saw he was right, meaning it was only at 34 losses not 37, But as I said just before I've done another 4 since the thread started and lost them all aswell, bringing it up to that number anyway.

    I also know the BG's fairly well, my Main PvP character Is full Tyran/Grevious and does quite well in them.

    It is just this one damn character I can't do it on, which makes me die a little inside when I log on one of my Alts and win a Shards from a Random BG queue.

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