We have 6hrs a week and we already see issues with real life with such a short time invested in raids and 12hrs would by most be considered a hardcore schedule with 3 or 4 nights a week being tied to raiding. That is far from casual and like i said.
If your 20hrs of playtime in a week is spread out in chunks that are no more than 1.5 hr tops at any single given point in time explain how you can raid a 3-4 hr session with those? as you can see the 12hr isnt the limitation it is the scheduling that crashes it.
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If we look at subnumbers lichking had the highest. So I guess blizzard should make short tunnel hcs that you finnish in 15min and just aoe down the trash. Do you really think there are millions of players that will resubscribe if the game gets more hardcore? Cata was more hardcore then lichking and a few million subs was lost. Its kinda ironic that you want to add some tbc-esqe features but remove flying. Flying was one of the main features of tbc.
What they need to do is making an built in oqueue and more exciting lore. But 5.4 was great imo. The other patches in mop was good too but felt abit disconnected from the lore. Some parts was good and some bad.
This thread is about as useless as the many others started by Jaylock, sorry but no, you have no facts to back it up, just pure conjecture. Losing LFR is fine by me, I despise it, but no way is it going to drag millions back. The game is dying, but only because its old and things change.
He's making it up as he goes along.The point of the post was not directly said in words, I made the mistake of thinking it was common sense.
As long as its $15 month, WoW will continue to decline
Free-To-Play is the future.
No. There aren't "millions" of former players sitting around being mad about two specific things. That is fantasy, plain and simple.
Nah, wouldn't matter in the least. The game is way too old and boring to get people back.
Frankly, if clams didn't stack, I think more people would resub.
What does getting rid of flying mounts really do? You can queue into instances from capital cities and bots do the majority of farming. The only thing it would accomplish is to make it more of a pain to get from point A to point B.
The majority of the game has become casuals. Removing these things would alienate the casual player base. Now why would millions resubscribe?
Oh you precious summer child.
Omaygawd, I hadn't even realized this was a Jaylock thread!
But trying to use logic, that assesment is really subective. You are assuming way too much and are not even considered how much the market as changed the last 10 years.
As much as it would make me re-subscribe (if i wasn't playing..) and many others that I know that have actually quit; I'm extremely skeptical at the thought of 'millions' resubscribing if this went out lol. Having said that, I don't think that it would 'kill' the game either, but it would deal a huge blow - I don't care for LFR at all and I could care less if it was gone, but I know that a lot of people are only able to do that one thing (poor souls, I feel so sorry for people that can only manage LFR due to time constraints :/), they'd have no choice but to quit due to the fact that there's nothing to do outside of raiding and pvping at level cap (which a lot of people only prefer one of usually, personally I enjoy both but i'm in the minority here).
Now, what WOULD bring subscribers back, even if it seems a bit of a cheap thing to do by Blizz, is to make hearthstone a mini-game from within WoW. Though that would no doubt reduce the income for the game itself, it would DEFINITELY increase subscribers by at least a bit. Obviously this won't happen, but yeah.
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On top of that you're one of those that haven't realised that the raids for normal/HC got a lot better because suddenly around 70% of the player base plays them instead of the 10% it was before. More reason to give money to make some nice raids :P
Overall lackluster and badly thought idea from your side. Try again, with some more thought next time,
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Removing flying mounts is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. WOTLK had flying mounts and was at the peak of it's sub count. LFR is for people that play WoW very casually and have very little time to really do anything.
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