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    Thok 10-N Warmaster Montak (Red) Damage Buff

    In the Thok encounter, when you free the Warmaster Montak (Red) he throws fire beneath players as well as gives them a chance to deal extra damage. Does anyone know the amount of extra damage that is thrown out? Is it enough to justify doing Red first with bloodlust, or at least 2nd (also due to poisons being a bitch)?

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    From having seen red on normal (killed it a couple weeks ago first time), it does not look good to do. It will also require coordination to stack up to push the next phase after generally being a lot harder to heal.

    I would say use BL at the start. We've found we don't even see red phase if we manage p1 well.
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    Hero at start when you know you'll get the full duration.

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    If you Hero at the pull and use proper CD's you will burn him enough that you won't even open up that cage and will get the kill before needing to deal with fire! it's win win that way!

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    Trust me, you never want to see that fire door open. It is a complete mess, especially since you can't stack well in the "stacking" phase.

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    On the first two doors you should stack at Thoks feet, but an advice for the "fire door" is to have the tank kite the boss around the room at the outer edge and have the raid move as a group (on one of his feet) - this makes it easier to heal and puch the boss out of the phase and in to a last Phase2 (which you can not get out of again) in case you do not have the dps to down him in the firephase

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    question about the Warmaster Montak buff.
    we are doing 25m HC so we WILL get the red door.

    How much damage does it do? additionally, only people that are near the cage when opened get it? (what is the radius of giving the buff, and when is it given?)
    If range spell casters get the buff, does it help with spells applying the fire dot, or just melee attacks have a chance to apply it?

    anyone have a clue what "blessing of Kros" actually does?!?!? (green guy getting released) google search + mmo search reveled... no information

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    here is a log in which it was used a bit...
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/36ioxaovefnkk4dv/details/36/?s=2282&e=2763
    it is called "flame coating"
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/36ioxaovefnkk4dv/spell/144116/?s=2282&e=2763

    tbh.. this doesn't look negligible at all! this was NOT a kill, and didn't have too much time in the red phase...
    might try looking into this more next pulls...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyone42 View Post
    question about the Warmaster Montak buff.
    we are doing 25m HC so we WILL get the red door.

    How much damage does it do? additionally, only people that are near the cage when opened get it? (what is the radius of giving the buff, and when is it given?)
    If range spell casters get the buff, does it help with spells applying the fire dot, or just melee attacks have a chance to apply it?

    anyone have a clue what "blessing of Kros" actually does?!?!? (green guy getting released) google search + mmo search reveled... no information

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    here is a log in which it was used a bit...
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/3...?s=2282&e=2763
    it is called "flame coating"
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/3...?s=2282&e=2763

    tbh.. this doesn't look negligible at all! this was NOT a kill, and didn't have too much time in the red phase...
    might try looking into this more next pulls...
    You can still skip red phase in heroic, especially with gear levels now. IF you do end up getting a fire phase I'd recommend staying in it for 5-6 stacks of acceleration max and then getting into fixate phase and killing him there.

    Make sure boss has a mortal strike debuff on him when he is eating NPCs to reduce heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverlite View Post
    In the Thok encounter, when you free the Warmaster Montak (Red) he throws fire beneath players as well as gives them a chance to deal extra damage. Does anyone know the amount of extra damage that is thrown out? Is it enough to justify doing Red first with bloodlust, or at least 2nd (also due to poisons being a bitch)?
    Wow... I didn't even know that!

    Honestly I have never seen that phase in any difficulty. You should probably do more stacks in all P1 so you can kill him before opening the red door (the other ones are quite easy). It also makes the fight harder to open the 3rd door because he heals himself for 10% every time a door is opened.

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