i posted this is another thread, because i have to question something...Originally Posted by me in another thread
how the hell are we supposed to get to draenor BEFORE the dark portal is built? if we travel back in time i mean... we either have to time travel from outland, or we have to stargate wormhole our way through a sun. i don't think time travel is plausible, unless somehow someone punches a hole through the space time continuum.
continuing on from our current time-line, flying the exodar there might be a more plausible solution, it's either that or we build a second dark portal powered by jaina or something.
it's much more plausible imo, to visit the remnants of draenor - outland is essentially a piece of draenor and the rest is supposedly destroyed, but we don't know that for sure. the remnants of draenor could well be burning legion controlled and the launching point for the pending invasion
That being said, in a fantasy world - If you can make us travel through time on a whim you can probably zip us between planets as well, Dark Portal notwithstanding.
Arguing over the plausibility of time-paradoxes in a game that has talking werewolfs, orcs, goblins, dragons, spaceships, vikings, magic, elves, cow people, monkey people, fish people, fungus people, and tons of other stuff... is well, kind of pointless?
Relax! The game will be fun even if Stephen Hawking says this isn't possible.
Last edited by Conbot; 2013-11-05 at 02:31 PM.
What is tripping me up about this whole deal is that it is more than likely a time-travel expansion with another Hellscream as a main antagonist. People can say what they want about it, like it doesn't have to be that way or this or that. But my logic is if the 1 poster got the name right, why would he not get the info correct as well. 2 Orc centered expansion sounds cool to y'all? With time traveling where lore can literally not mean anything at all and possibly squash all the lore we have been invested in for years?
I do not care what the name the damn game just don't make it time travel and about Grom.. like at all.
Grommash "Grom" Hellscream was the chieftain of the Warsong clan, and best friend and chief advisor to Warchief Thrall. He was the first orc who drank the blood of Mannoroth the Destructor, thus binding the Horde to the Burning Legion — and he would eventually pay the ultimate price to free himself and his people from the curse.
I give this a plausible.
The light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly.
so the bronze dragonflight don't have control over the entire space time continuum - so they can't space/time portal us there.
medivh, guardian of tirisfal, quite possibly the biggest badass mage on azeroth opened the dark portal - but it also required there to be another portal at the other end to receive this connection... so again, unless we're expected on draenor and there's a portal there just waiting for us to connect to, how the hell are we supposed to get there...
the exodar! didn't they leave draenor originally because they couldn't fight the armies of the legion? the might of the horde and alliance have already proved their ability to repel the burning legion and with the exodar fixed, why wouldn't they try to reclaim their homeland... shattered though it may be, surely they would want to liberate and cleanse their homeland.
it'd do a lot for the draenei lore tbh, they've not had much love
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I'm just saying that potential time paradoxes do not invalidate this leak.
but seriously though, you wouldn't have to take a horde and alliance contingent. you could just send through a team of crack troops on a scouting mission, they then set up a dark portal V2 for us to connect to.
then the alliance and horde could use the "new" portal to get to draenor, without having to huddle up on a spaceship.
Factoid 1) Page 100, top left corner first sentence..
Note: CROSS-DIMENSIONALThe Exodar is actually a cross-dimensional ship, originally part of Tempest Keep on the shattered world of Outland.
Factoid 2) Page 96 bottom left corner, middle of paragraph.
Sub-section is about the Exodar and it is in the Section about Prophet Velen.It has since been repaired, and is now fully capable of leaving Azeroth at any time.
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Here's another possibility that other people have brought up: If we are traveling through space on the Exodar, we are technically travelling on a ship from Draenor. What if, for example, we were going to wage war on Argus? We would be the Warlords of Draenor. We wouldn't even have to go to Draenor.
Chew on that for a bit. Haha.
after the fall of deathwing all the Dragon Aspects were diminished, but they are all still very powerful (just not immortal demi-gods anymore)
because of this, the bronzeflight can still manipulate time a little bit, but can not really see what's going on in the timeways anymore
this is explained more or less on the Timeless isle.
the bronzeflight's visions of the past and future are blurred, and they need help from humanoids like us to gather materials to amplify their time-wimey magiks. and they also need our help to do timey-wimey... stuff.