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  1. #21
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    I believe that inside the lore of world of warcraft, no one ever stated that someone from any race can't start practicing a form of any kind of class. For instance, if a troll really wanted to know how to be a mage, he could and he can! In this case, unless there's something preventing undead from being something, they can be anything. Even druids. Besides, some undead are reincarnated paladins.

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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Turmoill View Post
    Undead paladins are deathknights. As palandins paladins tho, no. Light burns the undead.
    Explain Undead Priests to me then buddy.
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    If they can make it work for Tauren, they can make it work for undead. Lore be damned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manicwrath View Post
    there are 3 undead paladins in game, one in naxx, one in the argent dawn and another in the monastery i think
    The one in the argent dawn (Leonid Bartholomew the Revered) isn't a paladin. He is mearly an ex-Forsaken that joined the Argent Dawn.

  5. #25
    Uldaman has undead paladin corpses laying about. So obviously, it is possible. As it should be, considering there are also undead priests.

    They should just open all races to all classes at this point. When the matches greatly outnumber the mismatches, the restrictions seem pointless.

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  8. #28
    Here's how it would work:

    Undead Paladins would feel a "burning" when using the holy power, much the same way Holy undead priests feel it. They would not be filled with light, infact they would be more like the Blood Paladins who bend the light to their will, rather than channel it. Sun walkers (Tauren Pallies) are not Paladins either, they use the power of the sun the same way druids use the moon. But for the purpose of Gameplay, they are classified as Paladins. So, Undead Paladins would be HUMAN paladins who were killed and resurrected by the Forsaken and still have a knowledge of the light, but now bend it to their will rather than channel it. It has been done already:

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  9. #29
    Leonid Barthalomew is not a paladin. Not all members of the Argent Dawn/Crusade are paladins or priests.
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    Leonid Barthalomew is not a paladin. Not all members of the Argent Dawn/Crusade are paladins or priests.

    Do you have a source or is this more white knight lore shit that we just have to believe?

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Turmoill View Post
    Undead paladins are deathknights. As palandins paladins tho, no. Light burns the undead.
    No they're not, and why would it be any harder to be a pally then a priest, and they have those

    Also, not all deathknights are undead, just if they do die they can be brought back
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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Superman-BladesEdge View Post
    Do you have a source or is this more white knight lore shit that we just have to believe?
    Nice attitude. I would think you need proof that he is a paladin. You can't just take his presence in the Argent factions as evidence of this.

    Especially seeing as how they also have orc and goblin members.

    Edit: And just for shits and giggles.

    More orc members:
    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=28398
    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=10839
    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=47758
    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=28623
    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=47288

    More goblin members:
    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=45735
    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=30657

    And another undead member!
    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=28205
    Last edited by unholytestament; 2013-11-01 at 10:21 PM.
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  13. #33
    It IS possible.

    While Holy magic does burn undead, the Undead can still wield it. According to Blizzard, any Forsaken who is wielding the Light causes themselves great pain. Some Undead still worship the Light, and we have seen a couple of Undead paladins who still use it to their advantage. I think it'd be interesting to see Undead paladins in the Horde, personally.

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  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    If there's lore for it. Here, let me spin something.

    Following the fall of the Lich King the ghost of Sir Zeliek reappeared in his homeland (somewhere in Lordaeron?). It began appearing to certain undead warriors and priests much like how Uther's ghost appears in a few quests. He sought to help redeem some of the Forsaken and guide them back towards righteousness. A new order was formed following his example and they become a bridge between the Forsaken and the Argent Crusade.

    Okay, that's not much but it could work. So long as someone comes up with a reason for why/how Sylvanas doesn't squash them before they get too powerful.
    I'd like that. -nods-

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    There is an explanation about how Undead can be Holy Priests - which is that they suffer whilst channeling the light, because it burns them.

    The undead, undead of any kind, are forsaken by the Light. But, like how Goblins "bribe" the elements to do their bidding(most of them, anyway), the Forsaken could possibly channel/will it by force, although the pain would still be inevitable. So Undead paladins, whilst a valid option, would suffer as much as a Priest, if not more.

  16. #36
    Why not ?! It sure worked for tauren.

    And no one knows Leonid's class. Maybe he's just a warrior.

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    Yes it is possible. It causes them pain, but they can use the Holy Light, just because someone is undead does not mean that they must be evil. remember undeath was forced upon most people, they can remain the person they were in life, not all go dark side
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    Forsaken are only race that dont bend over and accept light as ultimate good. Doing this to them would devalue them extremely.
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    There are tons of Undead Paladins in Tyr's Hand.

    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=46092#abilities
    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9448#abilities
    http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9447#abilities

    All former Scarlet Crusade Paladins who retained their holy powers in undeath. So it can be done.
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  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by spirits330 View Post
    There's only one undead paladin and that's Sir Zeliek.
    And if im not mistaken, he's constantly hurt by it.

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