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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Nothing is changing in the old world, welcome to WoW. Just have to use your imagination.
    What about all the talk about Gilneas at the end of SoO?

    They don't have to change the whole old world to change a small part of it. Don't forget about Dustwallow Marsh in patch 2.3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sageofthe10paths View Post
    A revamped 5 man for the next xpac would be cool. But would have to be tied with The Emerald Dream.
    I was thinking more a city for the Horde Ogres to live in and a new dungeon can be in the mountain near the Steam Pools.
    Feralas should also belong the Horde as well and even the Alliance presence should be removed to.

    Also it can be used by Ogres and other races of the Horde.
    Some place for the Freewind Tauren and they make a Freewind Refuge in Dire Maul and having more to do with the place for the Horde.
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    I just cannot fucking wait for this weekend, when we get some info at last and I won't have to read wild fan speculation all the time. So sick of it!
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  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Telomerase View Post
    What about all the talk about Gilneas at the end of SoO?

    They don't have to change the whole old world to change a small part of it. Don't forget about Dustwallow Marsh in patch 2.3.
    Lip service... I would be entirely shocked if anything Varian says at the end of SoO comes to pass. Dealing with Sylvanas and recovering Gilneas? I will be shocked to pieces if either occurs. If they do, it will be entirely offscreen and the dan 6.0 drops things will have "changed" without our participation. They like doing that to Alliance a lot.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Klaxxar View Post
    I was thinking more a city for the Horde Ogres to live in and a new dungeon can be in the mountain near the Steam Pools.
    Feralas should also belong the Horde as well and even the Alliance presence should be removed to.
    Tell you what, you can have Feralas and an Ogre city there.

    But we are taking Arathi and making Stromgarde fully functional again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaxxar View Post
    I was thinking more a city for the Horde Ogres to live in and a new dungeon can be in the mountain near the Steam Pools.
    Feralas should also belong the Horde as well and even the Alliance presence should be removed to.
    By what merit? Feralas belong the Highborne exiled there, even if their grasp on the land is tenuous at best, and by that merit, the Alliance. Considering the Ogres you'd likely be allying with would be based out of Dustwallow rather than Feralas, a more logical suggestion would be to convert Dustwallow into a Horde zone. It's also not in the middle of nowhere, Feralas links to 1k Needles and Stonetalon Mountains, neither of which are follow on zones for level 10-12's while Dustwallow links to Northen Barrens, an ideal leveling zone for 10-12's.

    The question is then where to put Dalaran; Hillsbrad where it used be? Have it land in Dustwallow and phase the zone for the leveling experience then have them actively fight against the Alliance presence in the zone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thassarian View Post
    Corrected.
    Hey at least your city got all smashed up. All we got was a big gate in front of Mulgore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telomerase View Post
    What about all the talk about Gilneas at the end of SoO?

    They don't have to change the whole old world to change a small part of it. Don't forget about Dustwallow Marsh in patch 2.3.
    I'm not saying it's impossible but it's unlikely given it's disruptive to low level quest zones and Blizzard is hesitant about investing resources in the old world because people got their panties in such a wad over Cata.

    Blizzard has pretty much come out and said that their priorities are like:

    Content / endgame / balance issues / gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thassarian View Post
    By what merit? Feralas belong the Highborne exiled there, even if their grasp on the land is tenuous at best, and by that merit, the Alliance. Considering the Ogres you'd likely be allying with would be based out of Dustwallow rather than Feralas, a more logical suggestion would be to convert Dustwallow into a Horde zone. It's also not in the middle of nowhere, Feralas links to 1k Needles and Stonetalon Mountains, neither of which are follow on zones for level 10-12's while Dustwallow links to Northen Barrens, an ideal leveling zone for 10-12's.

    The question is then where to put Dalaran; Hillsbrad where it used be? Have it land in Dustwallow and phase the zone for the leveling experience then have them actively fight against the Alliance presence in the zone?
    You have places like Dalaran, Stromgarde, Gilneas, Kul Tiras to claim and own.
    You can have those places instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telomerase View Post
    Tell you what, you can have Feralas and an Ogre city there.

    But we are taking Arathi and making Stromgarde fully functional again.
    You mean fully functional like every major city outside Stormwind (ie completely abandoned)?
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    Vol'jin walks up and taunts Garrosh right before his execution, Garrosh breaks free, kills Vol'jin with one of Mannoroth's tusks, and before anyone else can react and attack Garrosh, Anduin strikes him down with a massive Holy Fire, incinerating him with grim determination while everyone stares on in complete surprise.

    (And then Lor'themar for leader)

    That's what I want to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telomerase View Post
    Tell you what, you can have Feralas and an Ogre city there.

    But we are taking Arathi and making Stromgarde fully functional again.
    Make us build down Hammerfall and set it up in Feralas and you can kill the Galen's Fall for all I care.
    Also it would be nice to if we had a presence there for other things, other than helping with the repacking.
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  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    You mean fully functional like every major city outside Stormwind (ie completely abandoned)?
    lol

    Exactly.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Sageofthe10paths View Post
    Jaina boosts defenses in Dalaran creating lots of Kiran Tor familiars patrolling the ground level where Theramore once stood. A quest where you report to Jaina and help her use the staff of The Thunder King to power a magic device creating plenty of new guardians for the area.
    I highly doubt this would happen. Even after being leveled by the Legion, invaded by Scourge, fighting the Nexus War, and battling the LK, Dalaran maintained a non-martial atmosphere.

    Dalaran had been destroyed but not vanquished. The Kirin Tor had returned and rebuilt the mage capital, protecting it with a dome of violet magic, until the time had come for Dalaran to flourish anew as a hovering city. From here, the city-state had been the central focus of the Nexus War against Malygos, and, later, the fight against the Lich King. Yet one would find little here that was martial. Dalaran was at its best, and its populace happiest, when knowledge and learning were its greatest concerns.
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    I agree that Garrosh is going to be important in the next expansion. Right now, there's really no good reason for us to spare his life at the end of the raid. Especially after killing all of his supporters, both strong and weak. It's silly.

    Garrosh had BETTER be important to the story arc. Maybe he gets a call from Kil Jaeden or something...or kills Turelyon after he returns from whatever world he's been trapped in for years...so many good possibilities here! And they are all better than pandaland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Vol'jin walks up and taunts Garrosh right before his execution, Garrosh breaks free, kills Vol'jin with one of Mannoroth's tusks, and before anyone else can react and attack Garrosh, Anduin strikes him down with a massive Holy Fire, incinerating him with grim determination while everyone stares on in complete surprise.

    (And then Lor'themar for leader)

    That's what I want to see.
    You can always dream, eh?
    Big flaw there. Garrosh lost/dropped the Tusks of Mannoroth before being escorted away from Org. His lootable "corpse" after you watch the cutscene is infact the Tusks.
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    Didnt the war just end? Why would we start another by killing orcs in Ashenvale and fighting the Forsaken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saafe View Post
    Didnt the war just end? Why would we start another by killing orcs in Ashenvale and fighting the Forsaken?
    If anything the current relations are more like Vanilla, there will never be peace between the two factions. Tyrande outright says that she's willing to concede Azshara to the Horde for lumber, so long as they leave Ashenvale for good. Varian says that we're going to retake Gilneas, most likely so that the Worgen don't have a single tree, in a forest of trees upon a tree, for a Home. That already indicates that there'll be the same fragile peace we had back at the start, no outright war between the two factions but individual factions fighting against one another for a specific point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaxxar View Post
    You have places like Dalaran, Stromgarde, Gilneas, Kul Tiras to claim and own.
    You can have those places instead.
    Yeah, Orges can have a peice of Feralas as a capital city, it would be better if they took the steam pools instead of a place with 3 dungeons in it. It's like taking away the 3 dungeons or putting them in a horde capital.

    Horde is gonna get Zul'Dare pretty soon. Undermine the goblin capital island, and Alliance doesn't even have a tangible race to join them yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saafe View Post
    Didnt the war just end? Why would we start another by killing orcs in Ashenvale and fighting the Forsaken?
    The war is over, but battles will always be fought. Alliance needs to reclaim what the horde took from them during Cataclysm, and now is the time to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sageofthe10paths View Post
    Yeah, Orges can have a peice of Feralas as a capital city, it would be better if they took the steam pools instead of a place with 3 dungeons in it. It's like taking away the 3 dungeons or putting them in a horde capital.

    Horde is gonna get Zul'Dare pretty soon. Undermine the goblin capital island, and Alliance doesn't even have a tangible race to join them yet.
    Well considering Feralas for what it is would make a excellent Ogre zone to and the Gordunni would be forced out of Dire Maul and the Ogres who joined the Horde and new recruits claim Dire Maul as their own.

    I want this to happen, but I know it's not going to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaxxar View Post
    Well considering Feralas for what it is would make a excellent Ogre zone to and the Gordunni would be forced out of Dire Maul and the Ogres who joined the Horde and new recruits claim Dire Maul as their own.

    I want this to happen, but I know it's not going to.
    Never say never. If I told you during Cata that we would be going to a lost island called Pandaria and it would be Chinese themed with an over lining narrative of Horde vs Alliance you'd be like PFFFT yeah okay! Emerald Dream is the next expansion!

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