View Poll Results: Which playable race is the oldest, DO YOU BELIEVE? (Lorewise)

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  • Draenei

    238 39.93%
  • Human

    4 0.67%
  • Dwarf

    19 3.19%
  • Night Elf

    66 11.07%
  • Gnome

    2 0.34%
  • Worgen

    1 0.17%
  • Blood Elf

    4 0.67%
  • Tauren

    9 1.51%
  • Goblin

    0 0%
  • Troll

    230 38.59%
  • Orc

    12 2.01%
  • Undead

    2 0.34%
  • Pandaren

    9 1.51%
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  1. #141
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    Titans are the oldest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaxxar View Post
    Titans are the oldest.

    I'd put my money on naaru, elementals, and voidlords.

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    It also goes for Draenei, Pandaren, Tauren, Earthern, Trolls and Mogu for Azeroth.

    It also goes for Naaru for other world, elementals for the old golds and even the Ethereal for a other world.
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  4. #144
    WoW Magazine says the Tauren were created by a bull Ancient and predate the Titans' arrival on Azeroth. Why don't they have as many votes as Trolls?
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    That's a lesser know piece of lore and you can only vote on one item.

  6. #146
    The real anser isnt even in there.

    The Kaldorei..
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    Lorewise, doesn't wow have this MAJOR flaw where pretty much all races are descendants of trolls and night elves?

    If you ask me, all races should be equally old. Its a stupid idea that one race is spawned from another. That would mean that race isn't pure and basically rootless bastards.

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    edit: Every race except the forsaken i should add. They're the only ones we know came after the others, as they started to exist when humans & scourge used chemical warfare on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panquake View Post
    I'd say Draenei are probably the oldest, Orcs could be a good call too since we don't really know much about Draenor Pre-Draenei arrival.
    Orcs lived on draenor and they were born there by my knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSrm View Post
    Lorewise, doesn't wow have this MAJOR flaw where pretty much all races are descendants of trolls and night elves?

    If you ask me, all races should be equally old. Its a stupid idea that one race is spawned from another. That would mean that race isn't pure and basically rootless bastards.

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    edit: Every race except the forsaken i should add. They're the only ones we know came after the others, as they started to exist when humans & scourge used chemical warfare on them.
    Scourge = risen dead by the valkyr, or abominations created by necromancers or alchemists

  9. #149
    The Draenei are almost certain if Velen has been their leader for approximately 25,000 years. Let me repeat that. Their leader. The current one. Is over 25,000 years old. The Trolls and the Aqir's war is dated approximately 16,000 years ago. If Draenei were already far, far beyond anyone on Azeroth as far as technology goes even 100 years ago, we can assume they'd been around for quite a long time before Velen was even born.
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    Dranei then Trolls.

    Elves evolved from Trolls.

  11. #151
    I'm curious about Worgen. Are they actually a race? Like if they make babies, would their children be Worgen, regular humans, or feral wolves? Worgen are just humans cursed with a shapeshifted form and druids don't stop being their original race just because they can shapeshift. Does it matter what animal form they are in when they mate?

    EDIT: I made a mistake. Worgen are not just humans, they are also NElves.
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    ´So.. sorry to bring this up but..you know that .."thing" (Med'an).. is that "thing" cannon still?
    ...as much have some have wished otherwise, yes. (Loreology)

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    I'm curious about Worgen. Are they actually a race? Like if they make babies, would their children be Worgen, regular humans, or feral wolves? Worgen are just humans cursed with a shapeshifted form and druids don't stop being their original race just because they can shapeshift. Does it matter what animal form they are in when they mate?
    quick! to the science cave!

    Yeah, I have no idea. Classic methods of determining species and sub species go out the window in a world where completely alien beings can interbreed. They shouldn't even be able to digest the same food stuffs.

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    The Pandaren talk as they where there since the beginning, that they have seens everything that happened to Azeroth, I voted them, but I do not know all the lore :x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draahl View Post
    The real anser isnt even in there.

    The Kaldorei..
    Kaldorei being the night elves being something that's been discussed and answered a tonne of times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSrm View Post
    Lorewise, doesn't wow have this MAJOR flaw where pretty much all races are descendants of trolls and night elves?

    If you ask me, all races should be equally old. Its a stupid idea that one race is spawned from another. That would mean that race isn't pure and basically rootless bastards.

    - - - Updated - - -

    edit: Every race except the forsaken i should add. They're the only ones we know came after the others, as they started to exist when humans & scourge used chemical warfare on them.
    Humans devolved from Vrykul who were titan constructs
    Dwarfs from earthen > same thing
    Orcs are from another planet, as are draenei
    Worgen (as we play) are cursed humans, as are forsaken (sort of)
    Not sure about goblins
    Gnomes are curse of fleshed mechagnomes > titan constructs.
    Tauren are from around the same time as trolls, no known origins I believe

    Aside from blood elfs from night elves from trolls is the only real link.

    ( i probably missed some races, meh )
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  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    WoW Magazine says the Tauren were created by a bull Ancient and predate the Titans' arrival on Azeroth. Why don't they have as many votes as Trolls?
    Clearly hooves and horns is the natural order of things and everyone else is freaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    I'm curious about Worgen. Are they actually a race? Like if they make babies, would their children be Worgen, regular humans, or feral wolves? Worgen are just humans cursed with a shapeshifted form and druids don't stop being their original race just because they can shapeshift. Does it matter what animal form they are in when they mate?

    EDIT: I made a mistake. Worgen are not just humans, they are also NElves.
    I think the original worgen were from another plane, something we know little about. Technically alien I suppose, will have to do more reading on the matter myself.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Rixis View Post
    I think the original worgen were from another plane, something we know little about. Technically alien I suppose, will have to do more reading on the matter myself.
    The original Worgen were NElf druids that invoked the form of Goldrinn to fight the Satyrs. They were unable to control the feral nature of this form and started infecting other NElves. Malfurioin banished them to the Emerald Dream. It is from there that Arugal summoned them to fight the Scourge.
    Last edited by Aquamonkey; 2013-11-04 at 08:57 PM.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    I'm determined to someday make Med'an awesome. (MickyNeilson)
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    ´So.. sorry to bring this up but..you know that .."thing" (Med'an).. is that "thing" cannon still?
    ...as much have some have wished otherwise, yes. (Loreology)

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Rixis View Post
    I think the original worgen were from another plane, something we know little about. Technically alien I suppose, will have to do more reading on the matter myself.
    I'm pretty sure the other plane turned out to be the Emerald Dream and the worgen there were night elf druids.

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    I'm curious about Worgen. Are they actually a race? Like if they make babies, would their children be Worgen, regular humans, or feral wolves? Worgen are just humans cursed with a shapeshifted form and druids don't stop being their original race just because they can shapeshift. Does it matter what animal form they are in when they mate?

    EDIT: I made a mistake. Worgen are not just humans, they are also NElves.
    depends on which worgen you mean.

    the worgen who are cursed that we play as had their dna changed, they are nolonger human they are worgen, their human "disguise" is just that, a disguise, its not real its an illusion.

    however the original worgen are just druids.

    since the worgen we play as are a species now that should mean they would have worgen babies, whether or not that baby would be feral or not depends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immitis View Post
    depends on which worgen you mean.

    the worgen who are cursed that we play as had their dna changed, they are nolonger human they are worgen, their human "disguise" is just that, a disguise, its not real its an illusion.

    however the original worgen are just druids.

    since the worgen we play as are a species now that should mean they would have worgen babies, whether or not that baby would be feral or not depends.
    [Two Forms] appears to be more than just an illusion. It's an actual transformation stemming from learning to control the beast.
    Today our ceremony will restore balance to your people.

    and

    It is time, <name>. This... alchemy that has kept the beast inside you at bay will not last for long.

    The first cursed worgen were night elf druids like our new allies. They, however, abandoned the balance that the rest of their kind embraced and allowed the beast to take over their minds.

    It is only fitting that their brethren be the ones that deliver us from the Curse. Go, <class>. Drink from the waters of Tal'doren and make peace with yourself.

    Talran of the Wild says: Let the Scythe unbind that which was not meant to be bound! Let the soul master the beast, lest the beast master the soul!
    Vassandra Stormclaw says: Just as Daral'nir soothes the cursed druids who gave into the beast and abandoned balance, let Tal'doren soothe <name>.
    Lyros Swiftwind says: Just as Goldrinn's spirit once blessed our druids, let <name> be blessed with the wisdom of his race and the ferocity of the wolf god.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    I'm determined to someday make Med'an awesome. (MickyNeilson)
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    ´So.. sorry to bring this up but..you know that .."thing" (Med'an).. is that "thing" cannon still?
    ...as much have some have wished otherwise, yes. (Loreology)

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