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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeppio View Post
    That's my main concern. In a time-travel situation, the best outcome would be that the timeline goes on as normal. Which, when we return to the present, will feel like it didn't matter, since there'd be no difference between our adventure and the whole expansion simply not happening at all. Or the worse scenario, in which we end up altering major events. Which would cause retcons in the storyline, which in turn would be very frustrating that suddenly... say X character is now presented in a completely different light to the previous lore, or Y event now no longer happened. What would the consequences be? How would they be shown in-game? Or would it just be shrugged away and ignored? It's a very thin line, one too thin (in my opinion) to be the basis of an entire expansion. A dungeon or raid? Sure. We've had those before and it was both cool and interesting. But a whole expansion is an entirely different ball game to that. A single event is fine, it can easily be kept within the bounds of the story as we know it to have happened. An entire expansion on that concept would be far too difficult to keep in line with the rest of the story.
    The forgot the most important scenario. Whatever happened happened. Meaning, no, we don't change anything; however, things worked out the way they did because we were there in the first place. So, it did matter that we were there and what we did mattered because it's the reasons things worked out the way they did in the first place.

    Why doesn't anyone remember us? Well, that's something we'll have to wait to find out. But, I think it's easy to make work.

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by wonderspace View Post
    I can understand why you would think that. I just dug up the same post for Mists of Pandaria a couple years ago. It has both the same numbers of I guess "Goods and Services." The MOP Trademark had listed "009" and "041". The Warlords of Draenor has the exact same numbers. The terminology has changed since then, and I'm assuming still includes the same stuff from before.
    Dark Below has the same class codes. Hell, Corgi's Unleashed had the same class codes. Those don't confirm anything, and the definition under these class codes is so extremely wide. The only difference here is that under the short description given under the class codes, they often relate to the product. Never before they put "mobile devices and tablets" in the description, it also wasn't in the description of the Dark Below. Either they're taking WoW to tablets, or this for something else or it is a cover up. We know the so called screenshot was a fake, due various hints obviously giving it away. I'm personally open to anything, but I just prefer "The Dark Below" being the next expansion than whatever this will be.

    As far as I'm aware, they don't have to pay to apply for a trademark either.

    Looking at the past, Blizzard has been very fond of attempting to cover up their leaks or the trails people pick up, and they also tend to trademark the expansion name a few months in advance of it's announcement.
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    That Beta banner might be to clear the way for the new expac, but the image itself of Thrall doesn't have anything to do with it. That's the faction leader wallpaper they put out just before Cata, most of which was utilized for the loading screens on Kalimdor and Easter Kingdoms. Of course Thrall isn't in the Kalimdor ls, since he was replaced with Garosh in that expac.

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketbear View Post
    Dark Below has the same class codes. Hell, Corgi's Unleashed had the same class codes. Those don't confirm anything, and the definition under these class codes is so extremely wide. The only difference here is that under the short description given under the class codes, they often relate to the product. Never before they put "mobile devices and tablets" in the description, it also wasn't in the description of the Dark Below. Either they're taking WoW to tablets, or this for something else or it is a cover up.
    Or they've updated the requirements of what needs to be on the trademark. It says mobile devices such as and it has laptops in the list. They have never put Laptops on before either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasffion View Post
    Or they've updated the requirements of what needs to be on the trademark. It says mobile devices such as and it has laptops in the list. They have never put Laptops on before either.
    Haven't you read? Class 009 cover a very wide area, the info next to it is merely just summary what will apply to the trademark mainly, but in reality, the trademark covers all areas of the entire 009 Class. Similarly, the trademark would also apply for mousepads, even if they're not mentioned in the summary. It's curious they would now explicitly mention mobile devices such as phones, handheld computers and tablets in the description, rather than the usual schmuck.

    Similarly, my speculation can also mean nothing because as I said, the 009 class covers a lot of bases, and for Pandaland, they explicitly mentioned mousepads (altho, to be fair, MoP mousepads were produced, just like any other expansion name).
    Eitherway, this whole trademark blow up has definitely caused hype, but for that purpose really? Creating hype for Blizzcon to trick more people into buying the virtual ticket? Or to catch everyone by surprise when it isn't the expansion?
    As we know from the past, Blizzard likes to try to cover up leaks, considering this whole "hey, now it is registered here and here, with boub basically coming out saying "this is expansion, folk", if throwing us of their trail, then this stunt has pretty much done it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketbear View Post
    Haven't you read? Class 009 cover a very wide area, the info next to it is merely just summary what will apply to the trademark mainly, but in reality, the trademark covers all areas of the entire 009 Class. Similarly, the trademark would also apply for mousepads, even if they're not mentioned in the summary. It's curious they would now explicitly mention mobile devices such as phones, handheld computers and tablets in the description, rather than the usual schmuck.

    Similarly, my speculation can also mean nothing because as I said, the 009 class covers a lot of bases, and for Pandaland, they explicitly mentioned mousepads (altho, to be fair, MoP mousepads were produced, just like any other expansion name).
    Eitherway, this whole trademark blow up has definitely caused hype, but for that purpose really? Creating hype for Blizzcon to trick more people into buying the virtual ticket? Or to catch everyone by surprise when it isn't the expansion?
    As we know from the past, Blizzard likes to try to cover up leaks, considering this whole "hey, now it is registered here and here, with boub basically coming out saying "this is expansion, folk", if throwing us of their trail, then this stunt has pretty much done it.
    Just adding to your point: Reaper of Souls AND Heroes of the Storm use the class 009 and 041 just like all the other Blizzard trademarks, but Warlords of Draenor is the only one to mention non-downloadable game content as well.

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketbear View Post
    Haven't you read? Class 009 cover a very wide area, the info next to it is merely just summary what will apply to the trademark mainly, but in reality, the trademark covers all areas of the entire 009 Class. Similarly, the trademark would also apply for mousepads, even if they're not mentioned in the summary. It's curious they would now explicitly mention mobile devices such as phones, handheld computers and tablets in the description, rather than the usual schmuck.

    Similarly, my speculation can also mean nothing because as I said, the 009 class covers a lot of bases, and for Pandaland, they explicitly mentioned mousepads (altho, to be fair, MoP mousepads were produced, just like any other expansion name).
    Eitherway, this whole trademark blow up has definitely caused hype, but for that purpose really? Creating hype for Blizzcon to trick more people into buying the virtual ticket? Or to catch everyone by surprise when it isn't the expansion?
    As we know from the past, Blizzard likes to try to cover up leaks, considering this whole "hey, now it is registered here and here, with boub basically coming out saying "this is expansion, folk", if throwing us of their trail, then this stunt has pretty much done it.
    What I meant was they could have updated what needs to be included in that summary.

  8. #168
    sounds interesting

  9. #169
    still no nerf for war, mages and hunter mm (talkin about pvp)???? when people play on ptr... they wont see or dont see that some classes are very very strong and others sucks!

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