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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    But then why was that not included in the other trademarks? Starcraft's new expansion, Heroes of the Storm, Reaper of Souls, etc. all have servers to take care of as well. The fact that it popped up in this trademark, and this trademark ONLY is what concerns me.
    No it's only in Heroes & Warlords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubjuice View Post
    just on the subject of time travel in WoW

    in the past, whenever we have traveled in time it was either:

    a) to prevent the timeline from being altered and ensuring history occured just as it did, thereby justifying lore, not breaking lore
    or
    b) to obtain objects from the past, which had canonically disappeared from history at the moment we 'borrowed them' anyway, there justifying lore, not breaking lore.

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    May i ask what justification anyone has to assume that if we were to time travel again it would be alter history (which we have never done) instead of to prevent history from being altered (which is what we have always done before)?
    Because those who had formerly watched over history and ensured it occurred exactly as it should are no longer the timekeepers. At best, they see random glimpses of the past now.

    We can no longer ensure everything happens exactly as it did before it was influenced. If Baby Garrosh were to find his way back, he could for all intent's purpose, become his own grandfather because no one would know it wasn't supposed to happen. (And, in turn, it becomes what was supposed to happen.)

    So it creates a situation. Either:

    a) The timeline was always meant to allow for this to happen, and the lore doesn't change. We just get involved, as the timeline was always supposed to allow.
    or
    b) The timeline gets fucked up, which is what the Bronze Dragonflight tried to prevent, but can no longer force themselves to travel to the right time to ensure they can fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubjuice View Post
    just on the subject of time travel in WoW

    in the past, whenever we have traveled in time it was either:

    a) to prevent the timeline from being altered and ensuring history occured just as it did, thereby justifying lore, not breaking lore
    or
    b) to obtain objects from the past, which had canonically disappeared from history at the moment we 'borrowed them' anyway, there justifying lore, not breaking lore.

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    May i ask what justification anyone has to assume that if we were to time travel again it would be alter history (which we have never done) instead of to prevent history from being altered (which is what we have always done before)?
    Predictable boring expansion that means nothing next expansion if we preserve the timeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Wouldn't a Map pack be considered a downloadable electrionic thingie? It's not marked on there :/
    Usually map packs don't get a trademark.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbsbear View Post
    No it's only in Heroes & Warlords.
    So if it is HotS related, what is it? An expansion pack? Because Gamemodes/Maps/Characters don't get trademarks.
    You don't create "justice" by destroying. That includes buildings, cars, or the careers of the people you want "justice" for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbsbear View Post
    No it's only in Heroes & Warlords.
    http://www.blizzplanet.com/wp-conten...mark-in-us.jpg

    It does not include the non-downloadable part of the trademark that Warlords does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    Because those who had formerly watched over history and ensured it occurred exactly as it should are no longer the timekeepers. At best, they see random glimpses of the past now.

    We can no longer ensure everything happens exactly as it did before it was influenced. If Baby Garrosh were to find his way back, he could for all intent's purpose, become his own grandfather because no one would know it wasn't supposed to happen. (And, in turn, it becomes what was supposed to happen.)

    So it creates a situation. Either:

    a) The timeline was always meant to allow for this to happen, and the lore doesn't change. We just get involved, as the timeline was always supposed to allow.
    or
    b) The timeline gets fucked up, which is what the Bronze Dragonflight tried to prevent, but can no longer force themselves to travel to the right time to ensure they can fix it.
    Let's ignore Garrosh. He's not going to be the villain of 2 expansions in a row and the main character of 3 in a row.

    The only likely time plot would be one involving Wrathion. And what possible reason would Wrathion have to go back and screw with the Horde?
    You don't create "justice" by destroying. That includes buildings, cars, or the careers of the people you want "justice" for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Let's ignore Garrosh. He's not going to be the villain of 2 expansions in a row and the main character of 3 in a row.

    The only likely time plot would be one involving Wrathion. And what possible reason would Wrathion have to go back and screw with the Horde?
    To ensure the Horde never arrives on Azeroth, so the Alliance rules it on their own against the darkness as he had planned originally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumineus View Post
    We don't even know that. Sure, it's a legitimate mark, but is it WoW? It could be a map pack for their DotA clone, for all we know.
    What else could it be? To me Its clearly not Hearthstone or Warcraft(rts). So it has Draenor in the title which means its in the wow universe.

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    Usually map packs don't get a trademark.
    Maybe not but the whole trademark not marked for downloadable electronic or whataever tells me it's not a mapack either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    To ensure the Horde never arrives on Azeroth, so the Alliance rules it on their own against the darkness as he had planned originally.
    I'd like to think Wrathion hasn't gone entirely coo coo. Since the Bronzes have pretty much said the Orcs must come to Azeroth for the planet to survive past WC3.

    Also, though a neat theory, it doesn't explain why the "leak" called Grom a villain.
    You don't create "justice" by destroying. That includes buildings, cars, or the careers of the people you want "justice" for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Nye the Guy View Post
    Predictable boring expansion that means nothing next expansion if we preserve the timeline.
    or
    it could be like the the first Back to the Future movie and be freaking awesome and hilarious and wonderful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryos View Post
    This is the WoW collectors edition - no mousepad...


    So maybe they include a map this time and no mousepad, if we explore Argus a map would be nice.
    Just saying, it would stupid of them if they didn't include a Mousepad in the Collector's Edition every expansion has had one.

    TBC Collector's Edition - Outland Map

    WotLK Collector's Edition - Northrend Map

    Cata Collector's Edition - Deathwing

    MoP Collector's Edition - Chen Stormstout

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    I'd like to think Wrathion hasn't gone entirely coo coo. Since the Bronzes have pretty much said the Orcs must come to Azeroth for the planet to survive past WC3.

    Also, though a neat theory, it doesn't explain why the "leak" called Grom a villain.
    I haven't seen a single fully confirmed leak yet, so I'm not about to go basing my speculation on 'leaks' that aren't necessarily real.

  14. #494
    Quote Originally Posted by Grubjuice View Post
    the whole naming conventions argument is dead on arrival
    don't get caught up in refuting it, because no pattern can be discerned in a data set as small as 3 or 4 examples.
    that's just form of apophenia
    "Hi. My name's Jill and these are my four sons: James, John, Robert and Cheeseburger."
    "Wait, that last one doesn't follow the pattern."
    "Oh you and your Apophenia."
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    idk about you guys but honestly i'll take anything that isn't pandas.

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    I don't think the trademark issue is of the concern anymore really. We all know WoD has been trademarked. The question is whether it's for WOW or not which is still not confirmed, not even after this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWindWalker View Post
    "Hi. My name's Jill and these are my four sons: James, John, Robert and Cheeseburger."
    "Wait, that last one doesn't follow the pattern."
    "Oh you and your Apophenia."

    haha, it's funny because it's a false and exaggerated comparison. and it's also not strictly speaking outside the realm of reality anyway.


    ((by the way the odd name in that sequence is Robert since James, John and Cheeseburger all start with lingual-coronal affricates and Robert starts with a lateral lingual approximant)).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    idk about you guys but honestly i'll take anything that isn't pandas.
    I feel the same lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    idk about you guys but honestly i'll take anything that isn't pandas.
    I'd rather have a second pandaren-centric expansion than a time-travel centered one.

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