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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    I don't know about that. I was fully convinced that WoD was the WoW expansion until the post up above, where they pointed out this little bit in the trademark:



    Non-downloadable is not present in ANY of the current Blizzard trademarks, and that's concerning. Non-downloadable would mean no patches nor digital download.
    Browser based game?

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Lightwysh View Post
    Browser based game?
    Entirely possible. But it indeed begs the question: What is WoD supposed to be if it isn't something we are allowed to download? It's clearly a game, and it has to do with WoW for sure. But if it has no digital download, and has mobile capability, I'm honestly stumped.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    Entirely possible. But it indeed begs the question: What is WoD supposed to be if it isn't something we are allowed to download? It's clearly a game, and it has to do with WoW for sure. But if it has no digital download, and has mobile capability, I'm honestly stumped.
    Maybe a new rts browser game. That's why they registered the website as well. This would be a perfect avenue for mobile gaming, especially tablets.

  4. #84
    They are in denial.


    There's no reason at all why they would announce an expansion for a game that isn't even released yet, let a alone a game that's actually going to be free, and hence "expansions" doesn't even make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    I dunno, I'm not quite convinced. :/

    At worst, we have an expansion where we basically fuck up the space time continuum and all current lore is erased and replaced.
    At best, nothing of major importance gets changed, and we basically know the end of the expansion before it even starts.

    I don't really see it being a good play either way.
    That's exactly the dilemma of a time-based expansion. Either we'll completely change everything or nothing changes and our heroes won't really progress. But I like what our heroes would be confronted with. "we can make things right, but are we even allowed to? and we don't know what unforeseen consequences that could have."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    I don't know about that. I was fully convinced that WoD was the WoW expansion until the post up above, where they pointed out this little bit in the trademark:



    Non-downloadable is not present in ANY of the current Blizzard trademarks, and that's concerning. Non-downloadable would mean no patches nor digital download.
    That's a good point. But Heroes of the Storm has that line too, will they not get patches or a digital download? You can download every game from Battle.net. And if it's a browser game, why trademark game discs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow-cleave View Post
    But when it raises peoples' hopes and expectations to a level that Blizzard can't possibly attain?

    The rampant speculation is bad. We saw it with games like AC3 and DA2. Speculation and repeatedly raised hopes through "leaks," and speculation, both of which is happening here quite alarmingly, dashed those games to the ground before they even had a chance. They were both great games for what they were. Certainly could've been better, but they were fine. And what do we hear about them? They sucked, because they didn't play to people's unreasonably expectations.

    The same thing is happening now. And so many people are dead set on it being the expansion and about time travel. What if it isn't? Blizzard will literally have WW3 because of it.



    It's a card game and is, for all intents and purposes, finished. Card games generally release new cards and packs every few months or so. Wouldn't surprise me if it was for Hearthstone, because that's how card games work. Content for them is released fast.



    What if it isn't though? I'm not saying it isn't the next expansion, but read what you're saying. You're all but dead set in your mind that WoD is the next expansion, and it is about time travel. How pissed are you going to be if Blizzard reveals the next expansion and it isn't about time travel or even isn't WoD at all?
    I would probably have to do a double take if there isn't time travel in WoD.

    Because I don't want time travel. I've been fighting since Friday afternoon to show people why those two leaks are bogus.
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  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    I don't know about that. I was fully convinced that WoD was the WoW expansion until the post up above, where they pointed out this little bit in the trademark:



    Non-downloadable is not present in ANY of the current Blizzard trademarks, and that's concerning. Non-downloadable would mean no patches nor digital download.
    trademarks change, they update and upgrade, the technology changes, companies add more clauses to ensure better protection to their intellectual property etc, I won't read too much into it. Non-downloadable computer games covers CDs/DvDs and browser based only media jus t in case someone decides to provide their counterfeit only as a distributable non-downloadable game or browser only. It just covers more bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon View Post
    trademarks change, they update and upgrade, the technology changes, companies add more clauses to ensure better protection to their intellectual property etc, I won't read too much into it. Non-downloadable computer games covers CDs/DvDs only media jus t in case someone decides to provide their ocunterfeit only as a distributable non-downloadable game
    But Reaper of Souls was trademarked only a couple of months ago, shortly before Gamescom. Why didn't they include mobile stuff there too, just in case. Blizzard isn't stupid and they've been doing games for a long time, been doing WoW games for almost a decade now. Did they really not think of it until now?

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    Or even more out of left field - a console game. Solely through game disc media.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    I would probably have to do a double take if there isn't time travel in WoD.

    Because I don't want time travel. I've been fighting since Friday afternoon to show people why those two leaks are bogus.
    An expire expansion based on time travel would be odd, to say the least. Yeah, it could be cool. But it'd also be extremely easy to fuck up. Most of the "concepts" we have have us going back and stopping Garrosh from doing his thing on Old Draenor.

    There's 2 issues I have with this: 1. It fucks up the entire Warcraft storyline, right from the get-go. Just the act of going back in time essentially is a reset button. And 2. Gigantic plot hole: if we're stopping Garrosh again, why don't we just stop him from ever going back in time, rather than following him and fucking shit up worse?

    But it'd be cooler to have a different expansion entirely, and have WoD be an RTS (Warcraft 4, if you will), based on the Horde's rise (both the time period and Christie Golden's book), with both Orc and Draenei campaigns. I digress though, since "I'm just delusional and don't see the obvious awesomeness."

  11. #91
    Why would they be working on an xpac for game that's still in beta? WoD is the next wow expansion, I'm gonna say I'm 100% sure

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Nindoriel View Post
    That's a good point. But Heroes of the Storm has that line too, will they not get patches or a digital download? You can download every game from Battle.net. And if it's a browser game, why trademark game discs?
    Heroes of the Storm's trademark actually does NOT include that line.

    http://www.blizzplanet.com/wp-conten...mark-in-us.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon View Post
    trademarks change, they update and upgrade, the technology changes, companies add more clauses to ensure better protection to their intellectual property etc, I won't read too much into it. Non-downloadable computer games covers CDs/DvDs and browser based only media jus t in case someone decides to provide their counterfeit only as a distributable non-downloadable game or browser only. It just covers more bases.
    Given that Heroes of the Storm (Which was only revealed to be a trademark a MONTH ago at most) does not include that line, I would be hard pressed to believe it changed that fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    Heroes of the Storm's trademark actually does NOT include that line.

    http://www.blizzplanet.com/wp-conten...mark-in-us.jpg

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    Given that Heroes of the Storm (Which was only revealed to be a trademark a MONTH ago at most) does not include that line, I would be hard pressed to believe it changed that fast.
    Ah, damn, you're right. We were already talking about how HotS and WoD are exactly the same, yet I didn't see that WoD has that word non-downloadable. I totally overlooked that. That's interesting. Console game makes a lot of sense now. Or, you know...

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    Because they have no concept of generalized categories and the fact that laptops are portable devices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerus View Post
    Because they have no concept of generalized categories and the fact that laptops are portable devices.
    You're not keeping up with the discussion. That's why discussions here can be so tiresome. We've said that other games like Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls will also be playable on laptops, yet that category doesn't appear there, and it's been trademarked just recently. I'm not an expert, but I bet that this category is not there for games that run on laptops, because every game runs on laptops, right? Almost every game I would bet. I would say that this category is for games who are specifically designed for certain portable devices. WoW runs on laptops, but there is no special laptop version of the game right?

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Nindoriel View Post
    You're not keeping up with the discussion. That's why discussions here can be so tiresome. We've said that other games like Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls will also be playable on laptops, yet that category doesn't appear there, and it's been trademarked just recently. I'm not an expert, but I bet that this category is not there for games that run on laptops, because every game runs on laptops, right? Almost every game I would bet. I would say that this category is for games who are specifically designed for certain portable devices. WoW runs on laptops, but there is no special laptop version of the game right?
    Well the thing is, it seems like there are people out there that seem to think they need to register something before they release it, this is not the case.
    You choose a category in which you wish to register, then you need to specify, making it too specific gives the chance someone uses the IP outside of the registered categories, making it too broad increases the chance of objections.

    Tbh it's a huge company with several lawyers and several employees beneath them handling these registrations, they probably have a policy but as with everything have some margin within that policy, one registration could be different from another.

    Also keep in mind that trademark and patent law is extremely difficult and its far more complicated then just looking up words, you have to keep in mind that there is a lot more involved for instance jurisprudence.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    boub is just trying to appear clever and in-the-know. he doesn't actually know what it is unless he works for blizzard and broke an agreement.
    You've been here since 2012 so we'll pretend you didn't say that. But seriously.. he does have contact(s). He's been right about every expansion dating back as far as I remember. I don't know if he just has a friend at Blizzard EU who can't keep a secret or if Blizzard EU likes to "leak" a few details just prior to Blizzcon to start the hype train going. But for him to say he is confident on a personal level is a big commitment. If he's wrong, he (and his baby that's one of the biggest and oldest wow websites around) is going to look rather silly. He doesn't need to grandstand or show off.

  18. #98
    i dont get it either hs and portable devices muah...
    the chinese firm who ripped hs off will release that not blizz - blizzard is to big and slow to do changes

    so yes WoD is xpac

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