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  1. #821
    Quote Originally Posted by hareu View Post
    actually more 25 mans have downed heroic garrosh, a significant more amount of 25 mans have killed heroic garrosh.

    now there are more guilds that have atleast a heroic boss killed because there are more 10 mans, but if theres more 10 man heroic raiding guilds why have more 25 mans guild garrosh? idk if what you said is true at all, now it's not always the same, like this tier i'd say 25 mans have it easier last tier 10 mans had it easier 100%.
    More 25 mans have killed Garrosh because 25 mans are far more dedicated raiding-wise to start with. If you've got a leadership that can herd 30 cats around and kill bosses, keep a decent roster and sort internal disputes, then it'd be weird if it stopped there and they weren't also pushing progress. A shitton of 10 mans are "casual" 10 mans, and even the ones who have downed a heroic boss doesn't neccessarely need to be focused on heroic progress. The first 8 are all at a difficulty that rivals normal mode bosses from previous tiers.

  2. #822
    Quote Originally Posted by Zydas View Post
    Good 10m HC guilds with solid leadership will last. The guilds that will fall apart are the ones made up of 10 friends who refuse to invite anyone else and only play with each other.
    The guilds that will most likely fall apart are non-English speaking European guilds. The 10 man raid size is perfect for those who are most comfortable communicating in their own language, e.g. an absolutely huge part of the European raiding scene. For your average 10m HC guild, it's already extremely hard to find people from your own country who can share your raiding schedule, are on your skill level, are your age, happen to be playing the role you need and are actually looking for a guild. For forced 20 man raiding this will make an already very hard issue nigh impossible.

    In short, the Mythic 20 man raids will alienate a massive proportion of the European raiding scene. It's as if Blizzard didn't even think this through as far as language barriers goes, which is mind boggling. It's as if they have no clue why 10 man raiding is so popular in Europe.
    Last edited by Akylios; 2013-11-17 at 04:35 PM.

  3. #823
    It's mind boggling how big a deal this is. People just need to learn to step out of their comfort zone.

  4. #824
    Quote Originally Posted by Akylios View Post
    The guilds that will most likely fall apart are non-English speaking European guilds. The 10 man raid size is perfect for those who are most comfortable communicating in their own language, e.g. an absolutely huge part of the European raiding scene. For your average 10m HC guild, it's already extremely hard to find people from your own country who can share your raiding schedule, are on your skill level, are your age, happen to be playing the role you need and are actually looking for a guild. For forced 20 man raiding this will make an already very hard issue nigh impossible.

    In short, the Mythic 20 man raids will alienate a massive proportion of the European raiding scene. It's as if Blizzard didn't even think this through as far as language barriers goes, which is mind boggling. It's as if they have no clue why 10 man raiding is so popular in Europe.
    TBH i didnt really think of that. im the US we all speak english. You do have a good point though

  5. #825
    Its a point but not that big, there are loads of english speaking guilds on EU realms.

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