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    Garrosh: "1.21 Gigawatts? Great Scott!"

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    What does asdasdasd means ??

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    As an aside, with the players being the primary protagonist/tool for advancing the story/saving the world, anything we do to advance our level/increase our power advances to story, whether you like the mechanism by which it happens or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Descense View Post
    It looks like..they dont know wtf are they even doing.
    it looks like they're sizing up a pretty good xpac. whether it'll stay that way is a different story. but with everything they just said i see a lot of potential for great things, and great failures.

    we shall see. but i'm going to remain optimistic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hextor View Post
    How is this NOT a time travel xpack? lol
    Because you aren't changing the past. It's like bridging old Draenor with current Azeroth.
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    Another Thrall expansion? I like the guy and all, and I get that he's the poster child for Warcraft now, but I'd really like to see more from some of the underutilized characters. At least they're acknowledging that the space goats exist again, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hextor View Post
    How is this NOT a time travel xpack? lol
    Think of it as a portal to a parallel universe. I like the idea very much.

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    I can imagine Garrosh standing in front of a group of Orcs:

    Alright class, today teacher will learn you about WMDS AND ALLIANCE SCUM!

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    OMGOMGOMGOMG I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS XPAC THAT I THINK I'M GOING CRAZY!!11!
    Holy shit, MoP was good, but this? This is gold stuff, high level shit. See Ner'zhul, Gul'dan, Grom, Durotan and all these guys again... I think I'm gonna cry.
    I love you Blizzard, marry me.

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    Some Shado Pan jailers are going to lose their jobs. How the hell did they let Garrosh escape?
    Anyways I knew this was one of the possible scenarios where Blizzard would reuse a lore character again after almost an entire expansion focused on taking him down. Wish Thrall executed him then & there.

    Well either way I'm excited for the new character models, the ones they previewed looks awesome, I can't wait for the Human models (seeing that almost all my toons are humans).

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    Did they just somewhat confirm Kil'Jaeden to be a part of the xpac at some point in the answer to that question?

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    Garrosh will mess it up as usual, after the Twilight Highlands example, he will mess things up while trying to impress and the Iron Horde will grow without him, possibly usurped after making too many mistakes then they will invade Azeroth, Garrosh will be cleaning their privies as a peon in disgrace after losing face lol.

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    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    How is this time travel going to work with the story?
    We aren't going back in time, the Dark Portal is turning red, bad guys are coming through. We look at the Orc Clans as they were, but things are happening now. The end of this expansion will launch the next one.
    So, uh

    Are the characters who were on Draenor and are still alive (Would that just be Velen now?) just going to have Elseworld clones running around?

    For that matter, is there now an Elseworld Azeroth that you could theoretically build a portal to?
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    So, probably, Garrosh will escape with the help of the Timewalker traitor and end up being like Kael'thas, start things going and then be relegated to the scrap heap.

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    I rarely ever comment; but knowing the BlizzCon isn't OVER yet…

    So far all I see is a Mini-expansion.

    Everyone getting hyped up for this game sees some cool content (Player Garrison, Models, etc…)
    and maybe an interesting story!
    Hey it might work, it might not.

    What I see is:

    Every expansion has had smaller leaps of content than the last. From Vanilla to BC -> a Whole new world and lotsastuff. BC -> WOTLK an Amazing Story from Wc3 and Content -> Cataclysm was the progression of NEW story and content -> then we hit MoP. Mists had content that SHOULD have been in the previous expansions. Content such as: Transmogrification (Which was wanted since BC (but not screamed for)). Obvious things that make a good game better were made in MoP, Which actually wasn't a lot. I didn't really care for the story, but Pandas were acceptable. A whole expansion on them? Sure why not. It's more story. But the actual story of World of Warcraft? Didn't really appeal to that.

    What I saw was the word:

    "Expansions"
    Expansions (S)
    (S)

    SSSSSSS

    See that?

    Yeah I see this expansion as a MINI expansion. It's more of a large patch in my opinion as of right now. You have to remember that they will eventually run out of creative juice for newer interesting content that is still Warcraft. For the next 2-3 expansions that they have lined up, expect them to be more like patches, with content they purposely withhold to keep some attention.

    I don't mean to sound negative. But a Burning Legion expansion would have been way more interesting than this. I am -so .. sick… of Garrosh…-

    This expansion isn't ABOUT time travel, it's the catalyst for content. I think it's stupid they have to resort to messing with time to bring in a new antagonist. And if they are messing with time (Garrosh at least). Then F*** it. Go back in time, keep Arthas alive. Bring Illidan back. Throw Vashj into leadership of a Naga Invasion. It's just stupid in my opinion. No main villain is really dead if (GARROSH OF ALL CHARACTERS) lore characters can use time travel to mess with everything. Why can't others?

    Blizzard has had too many WRONG curveballs.
    Sylvannas should have been the one to silence Arthas. Illidan should make another appearance. Vashj should have had a bigger role in Outland. Deathwing really was not that big and badass as a giant slime bucket of lava (endgame, one of the most disappointing endings to an expansion (the fight)). And an ENTIRE expansion about Pandas who drink beer and kill innocent animals (Kill mother turtles for their baby eggs, YEAH! KILL ALL THE ANIMALS AND DRINK BEER). Was stupid as shit.

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    Warlords ? Seriously, Blizz ?!

    I wanted the Burning Legion, maybe Azshara before the final Sargeras expac. But this ? The past coming to the present and "baddest badasses in Warcraft history got together" ? SoO/Garrosh was merely a setback ? Iron Horde ?

    They scrapped Titan when they should have scrapped this expac !

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    Quote Originally Posted by zekiel218 View Post
    I don't believe we traveled back, for some "Random" reasons, the past is brought to the present and merges with it.
    That opens a whole different can of what the hell.

    It sounds as if they're still struggling with the concept of just how to handle getting us into all the stuff they want us into. It almost seems like they're split between "the players travel back in time to Draenor" and "Garrosh travelled back in time to Draenor, preventing its destruction, and now the present of Draenor has been changed". But both of those require an alternate universe explanation to not vastly change the present of Azeroth...

    Either that or old Draenor is somehow rebuilt from scratch a-la H2G2. That would be a bit of a cop-out... But it might actually be the most usable of the ideas, as it doesn't get into timey-wimey problems at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawer View Post
    Warlords ? Seriously, Blizz ?!

    I wanted the Burning Legion, maybe Azshara before the final Sargeras expac. But this ? The past coming to the present and "baddest badasses in Warcraft history got together" ? SoO/Garrosh was merely a setback ? Iron Horde ?

    They scrapped Titan when they should have scrapped this expac !
    To be fair, anything involving Jay Wilson should be scrapped.

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    It's pathetic how many people can't grasp the concept and how this is NOT a time travel expansion:

    Garrosh is the only one that goes back in time. Him preventing the Orcs from drinking the demon blood changed the course of history. Because of this, Draenor is still intact and the Iron Horde are on our doorstep in OUR OWN TIME. When we go through the portal, we are not traveling back in time - we are experiencing the events on Draenor taking place in the current timeline due to Garrosh's influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renedric View Post
    Think of it as a portal to a parallel universe. I like the idea very much.
    From what they have said still sounds like time travel more than a parallel universe. It's kind of confusing but paradox's and time travel are suppose to be. Silly idea still IMO should have stuck with a different idea but same sort of theme.

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