Ok. I'm sure i got how this works. Hopfully this makes some sense to people:
Garrosh breaks free and goes back in time. Let me say here that the bronze Dragon flight lost there powers in Cata so whatever power they have now are a shadow of what they once had.
Garrosh's action cause a parallel universe story to happen (been done loads like the TV show Fringe!) possibly because of the diminished powers of the bronze flight.
Garrosh convinces the Horde leaders to form the Iron Horde. (and here is where it gets interesting...) He Tells Gul'Dan of another world (Azerorth) that is ripe for plunder, fulfilling the role that Medivh plays in the original timeline. Gul'dan already the first warlock and in communication with demons (as mentioned in his official bio on WoD site) has knowledge of how to create the dark portal.
The Iron Horde decide to conquer the whole of Draenor first to then be unopposed when they invade this new land and construction of the Dark portal begins. At this point they kick Gul'dan out of the iron Horde (as per Bio)
Fast forward to WoD... This Dark portal in the Parallel universe will *also* connect to our Dark portal thus allowing alternative reality Iron horde access to our Azeroth unchanged by its current history tied to Outland..
We go via an event at Dark portal to this parallel universe to stop the iron horde form completing its conquest of Draenor to protect Azeroth. In some sense we are acting a bit like WarCraft 2: Beyond the dark portal on a larger scale in to a parallel universe... That's where we will start as players...
Also worth noting reading the bios on the Site. Durotan is not with the Iron horde and Grommash is 50/50 with them which will be a nice subplot for Horde.
Blizz has some tidying up to do over all that but essentially i think that's what Metzen was going with....
Last edited by dethrix; 2013-11-09 at 10:03 AM. Reason: poor grammer!
Dethrix, you and I are pretty much on the same page.
is anyone else missing the gate in you're garrison(in the screen shots at least) and for that matter archers/defenses on the walls. its a savage world but those guys can find a gap in your wall.
To answer all you asking "How is this not a 'travel back in time' expansion" I believe that the past in the outlands is changed enough that it effects the present. You're not going "back" in time, but rather you're going to Draenor as it exist today had some events never happened.
Basically, it can't happen without 2 universes :
In order to garrosh to be ABLE TO GO BACK IN TIME, he need to exist, the horde needs to exists and to live the events of SoO ect. So our current timeline MUST STILL EXIST for Garrosh to go back in time.
So when he go back in time he create an alternate universe where orcs never invaded Azeroth, ect. But Draenor intact is not in OUR universe, it is in an ALTERNATE universe. Otherwise the very existence of Garrosh-time-traveler would be wiped out from the beginning. After that, Garrosh finally connect the Dark Portal, but because he's the one who connect it, it connect to OUR universe, and it connect to the first point in time where he can be opened : right after Garrosh time-traveled. So for years and years he can't connect it simply because the fabric of the multiverse dosen't allow him to do so. The Dark Portal turning red means the connection has changed : instead of connecting to OUR draenor, which is Outland now, it connect to ALTERNATE Draenor, which is still intact and with the Iron Horde.
I would laugh if Garrosh cross first and is killed at the start of the expansion when we defend against the Iron Horde !
So we don't time travel
'bunch of stuff -> present day Azeroth' would have never occurred unless they drank the blood. your 'idea' (yes idea, not theory, because there are three theories of time travel all of which you have shown blatant disregard for) is silly because A) there is still an Outland & a Draenor, and B) there are Orcs on Azeroth. I'd agree with you on the condition that the Horde never existed on Azeroth.
And yes it IS a theory, by definition ("Theory is a contemplative and rational type of abstract or generalizing thinking, or the results of such thinking. Depending on the context, the results might for example include generalized explanations of how nature works."-wikipedia) Time Travel doesn't exist in real life. It's not a real thing. So you're my newest dumbest person I know for thinking there are only three specific theories of time travel when any old science fiction writer can make up whatever they want.
Last edited by mber341; 2013-11-09 at 02:48 PM.
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Warlorcs of Draenorc made me quit. You can't have my stuff.
The main thing to understand is that the reality of WoW is nothing like ours.
The worlds in WoW are probably like the ones in The Chronicles of Narnia. The Great Dark Beyond probably isn't exactly like our space, but lets you travel/see other universes, somewhat like that corridor universe that allowed travel between different worlds in "The Magician's Nephew".
We can see that it probably works that way, as the Exodar is a dimensional ship, not a spaceship. There may be some special connection between the Draenor Universe and the Azeroth Universe, as there is between Narnia and Earth
Since each world exists is in its own universe, the laws of time would function independently in each world (again, think Narnia vs Earth).
Why there is Outland and New Draenor:
Universes in WoW work different than they do here.
Each "Universe" could be a Multiverse all by itself.
We can see the Emerald Dream as its own universe in the Azeroth Multiverse, a pristine back-up copy of the Azeroth we live in now.
Garrosh's going into the past spawns off a new universe in the Draenor Multiverse, and that's the one the Iron Horde is invading from.
The Bronze Dragonflight
The Bronze Dragonflight would be in charge of time in our universe alone.
The Bronze Dragonflight's job is to prevent the spawns of these random universes in the Azeroth Multiverse. They keep real (as opposed to possible) universes in the Azeroth Multiverse to as few as possible (the Emerald Dream and the main Azeroth we live in).
Why is New Draenor locking onto our Azeroth as opposed to the Azeroth in their universe?
The fact that the Iron Horde is Stargate locking into our Dark Portal means that there ISN'T an alternative Azeroth with a Dark Portal (remember portals need to exist on each side).
Since every world is in it's own universe, and nothing has been changed in our universe, New Draenor's Dark Portal is just locking onto the only Azeroth Dark Portal there is.
Last edited by Levaustian; 2013-11-10 at 01:41 AM.
Actually I'm OK with the parallel universe thing. I only wonder what impact this expansion will have on the main story and what connection it will have with the next expansion.