Re-skinned old zones?

[thezeldadoth]

You guys are saying re-skinned old zones. From the video, the only thing these zones have in common are the names. If these EXACT zones were called something else and placed somewhere else, you wouldn't be calling them re-skins.

Cata-wasted time revamping old content, not enough end game content
MoP- new zones don't fit wow, too much end game content can't keep up
WoD- sending players to Draenor isn't new enough

Beg for new character models, complain new character models wasted time better spent on new race


you guys just love complaining and hating on wow, nothing more than that. I don't see how you can watch blizzcon and rather than be intrigued by the new lore and continent, sit there butthurt and angry.

[Affectionate]

They specifically said they built Dreanor from the ground up, even stating they did not just "alter / redo" them like they did with cata zones.

[artem123]

Welcome to the internet.
Full of complainers no matter what happens, even if they get what they asked for.

[TheWindWalker]

Very few people are mistakenly complaining about this being "rehashed old content." Don't worry, they'll either learn otherwise or fade into obsolescence.

[logintime]

I really just want to know where Zangarmarsh went. There's not a mushroom to be seen in any Telredor screenshot, and half of what would be Zangarmarsh is now a bay. Which totally does not sync with current lore that's established that Zangarmarsh existed well before the orcs went bad

[Splub]

I really just want to know where Zangarmarsh went. There's not a mushroom to be seen in any Telredor screenshot, and half of what would be Zangarmarsh is now a bay. Which totally does not sync with current lore that's established that Zangarmarsh existed well before the orcs went bad

I believe its still there, but much smaller. Some of it may be underwater as well.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Draenor has been rebuilt from the ground-up. Aside for a few areas, it's nothing like Outland.

It is also nothing like what it was in WC2, so it's a give and take scenario.

[Lucavian]

I really just want to know where Zangarmarsh went. There's not a mushroom to be seen in any Telredor screenshot, and half of what would be Zangarmarsh is now a bay. Which totally does not sync with current lore that's established that Zangarmarsh existed well before the orcs went bad

Metzen explained that Zangarmarsh hadn't became a marsh yet. Remember some of the land transformation is suppose to happen naturally over time, the rest of it happens when Draenor goes boom. We don't know which caused the change in Zangarmarsh.

[TheWindWalker]

I really just want to know where Zangarmarsh went. There's not a mushroom to be seen in any Telredor screenshot, and half of what would be Zangarmarsh is now a bay. Which totally does not sync with current lore that's established that Zangarmarsh existed well before the orcs went bad

Lore change. They literally explained this. Like repeatedly. Next to Shattrath is the Zangar sea. It hadn't drained from Draenor's destruction and come out as a marsh at that time.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

I believe its still there, but much smaller. Some of it may be underwater as well.

The Naga pumped out a lot more water than we innitially thought.

[goblingirl]

As another poster said, I specifically heard them say in the "What's Next" panel that the Draenor zones are built from scratch. Judging from the videos and screenshots, the quality of the art is much higher than BC. The trees and shrubbery in the foreground was highly detailed like Pandaria, far higher detail than BC.

As far as Zangarmarsh. At some point I saw a screenshot/concept art and it looks like Zangarmarsh is underwater in Draenor pre-sundering. There were fish swimming amongst the mushrooms.

I'm about to watch the Art panel so I'll update if I see anything useful to this thread.

[Travio]

Metzen explained that Zangarmarsh hadn't became a marsh yet. Remember some of the land transformation is suppose to happen naturally over time, the rest of it happens when Draenor goes boom. We don't know which caused the change in Zangarmarsh.

I suspect it might be all the water draining off into the Twisting Nether that causes Zangarmarsh to appear.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Metzen explained that Zangarmarsh hadn't became a marsh yet. Remember some of the land transformation is suppose to happen naturally over time, the rest of it happens when Draenor goes boom. We don't know which caused the change in Zangarmarsh.

Well some of it likely also happened when Draenor became the Red World we saw it as in WC2.

[Deleted]

I really just want to know where Zangarmarsh went. There's not a mushroom to be seen in any Telredor screenshot, and half of what would be Zangarmarsh is now a bay. Which totally does not sync with current lore that's established that Zangarmarsh existed well before the orcs went bad

Wel according to blizzcon, zangarmarsh was an ocean, and shattarath was a port city in the zangarmarsh ocean.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

As another poster said, I specifically heard them say in the "What's Next" panel that the Draenor zones are built from scratch. Judging from the videos and screenshots, the quality of the art is much higher than BC. The trees and shrubbery in the foreground was highly detailed like Pandaria, far higher detail than BC.

As far as Zangarmarsh. At some point I saw a screenshot/concept art and it looks like Zangarmarsh is underwater in Draenor pre-sundering. There were fish swimming amongst the mushrooms.

I'm about to watch the Art panel so I'll update if I see anything useful to this thread.

Yeah, it all looks nice enough so far. But it also looks unpolished, there's a number of things that need to be done yet to bring it up to complete status.

[iamthedevil]

Metzen explained that Zangarmarsh hadn't became a marsh yet. Remember some of the land transformation is suppose to happen naturally over time, the rest of it happens when Draenor goes boom. We don't know which caused the change in Zangarmarsh.

Yes we do, it was the destruction of Draenor due to the portals. Zangar SEA is right where it's supposed to be.

[Senftw]

They're idiots, to be honest.

Pay them no attention, this expansion concept is fucking awesome

[Immitis]

I really just want to know where Zangarmarsh went. There's not a mushroom to be seen in any Telredor screenshot, and half of what would be Zangarmarsh is now a bay. Which totally does not sync with current lore that's established that Zangarmarsh existed well before the orcs went bad

considering they now have "spore whales" instead of spore giants im assuming that it was an ocean with giant mushrooms maybe some islands in it with sporelings then when it blew up all the water fell off the edge and it became a swamp.

which is kind of a shame since zangarmarsh is one of the few things i liked about bc

[beanman12345]

There is absolutely nothing that blizzard could have announced that people wouldnt be bitching about. They even could have announced that they were going to pay us for playing their game, and people would complain it's not enough.

[Immitis]

They're idiots, to be honest.

Pay them no attention, this expansion concept is fucking awesome

yeah pay no attention to people who actually care about the storyline