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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuthus View Post
    "After explaining to Doomhammer the deception of Gul'dan, Durotan and Draka were sent away to safety with one of Doomhammer’s guards, but the guard betrayed them to the assassins of the Stormreaver clan. Draka was killed in the encounter." So it cannot be Draka. Also when i read book i read that she was killed. If it would be her then it wouldn't agree with lore.
    It can be Draka, as they weren't killed on Draenor. They were killed in Azeroth.
    "Before leaving Draenor, Draka and Durotan visited Geyah. Draka told her she was pregnant and Durotan added that he would be named as Go'el."
    Thrall was born in Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skalm View Post
    That's exactly what they are doing. It's about time! I really like what oQueue brought to the game, but the put so much extra 'bloatware' into the addon, that it became really annoying to use. He should have put an option in, to disable portions if you didn't want to see/use them. I am sure the Bliz version will have some issues, but it will definitely not be such a resourrce/bandwidth hog as oQueue.
    i agree, i didnt like the addon for the same reasons, as well as i didn't like how it took over my friends list. plus the addon creator(s) and the community they tried to foster didn't sit too well with me for some reason.

    but the idea of the addon is good, so glad that blizzard are going to be incorporating a similar tool into the game.

  3. #23
    wait, so their team is larger than ever, yet they can't do a good job of including characters in draenor?

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    Fey dragon is a store mount. Go fuck yourselves you greedy losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    wait, so their team is larger than ever, yet they can't do a good job of including characters in draenor?
    exactly....and they think we are supposed to be excited about their lack of doing so. this is all just a bunch of garbage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaelfor View Post
    Disappointed nobody asked them about the lack of dungeons
    do you think you would get a honest answer though?
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    No pvp questions =/

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    "The old version of Outland will remain unchanged. The current timeline is already somewhat of a mess, so the team may just move access to the current Outland to the Caverns of Time."

    Keeping an eye on this one. The 60-70 content is going to feel even more labourous though if this happens. Plus, confusing to new players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faithshield View Post
    "The old version of Outland will remain unchanged. The current timeline is already somewhat of a mess, so the team may just move access to the current Outland to the Caverns of Time."

    Keeping an eye on this one. The 60-70 content is going to feel even more labourous though if this happens. Plus, confusing to new players?
    No what was confusing was that I went 60 levels in cata to go to a past world from BC.
    Atleast the portal being in the caverns will serve to reinforce that outland is in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuthus View Post
    "After explaining to Doomhammer the deception of Gul'dan, Durotan and Draka were sent away to safety with one of Doomhammer’s guards, but the guard betrayed them to the assassins of the Stormreaver clan. Draka was killed in the encounter." So it cannot be Draka. Also when i read book i read that she was killed. If it would be her then it wouldn't agree with lore.
    actually if you think for a second about the timeline you would realize there is a potential for Draka to be the female orc in this, not saying that it is her just because it could be a random but; "Thrall (birthname Go'el), son of Durotan (born 2 years ADP)" means that she needs to be alive to give birth to him after the dark portal is opened, in warlords the dark portal has not been opened yet to my knowledge and so Draka must still be alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faithshield View Post
    "The old version of Outland will remain unchanged. The current timeline is already somewhat of a mess, so the team may just move access to the current Outland to the Caverns of Time."

    Keeping an eye on this one. The 60-70 content is going to feel even more labourous though if this happens. Plus, confusing to new players?
    Seems to be more logical to send the new one to the caverns and the one from BC to stay accessible by the Dark Portal to me, just because of the nature of these things I assume someone would find a progression taking them to the caverns to be potentially more confusing since the later Outland quests send you back to the CoT as if you would be heading there for the first time.

  11. #31
    They're seriously keeping lazy talents? You'd think even the slowest of their fans would have noticed that they're just glyphs by now.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    wait, so their team is larger than ever, yet they can't do a good job of including characters in draenor?
    Sometimes its best to focus on only the characters core to the story, and not try to stuff every single lore character that lived during that time. Remember the movies "X-Men Last Stand," "Mortal Kombat: Annhilation," and "Batman & Robin?" So many characters squeezed into those movies just for the sake of cameos and fanboy waving, and while it wasn't the only problem with those movies, it was completely unnecessary and contributed to their crappiness.

    I'm disappointed there's characters I'd love to see in WoD that might have been cut, but overall I'm fine with it if it means a tighter story.
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    The new Flex loot model will work similar to how Master Loot does today, but the number of drops will scale based on the number of people eligible for loot in the group. The personal loot system won't be removed, you will just have to opt in to it.
    I really hope personal loot stays for flex (aka normal). I pug with oqueue and players I have never seen before; this is the best loot system to avoid any drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faithshield View Post
    "The old version of Outland will remain unchanged. The current timeline is already somewhat of a mess, so the team may just move access to the current Outland to the Caverns of Time."

    Keeping an eye on this one. The 60-70 content is going to feel even more labourous though if this happens. Plus, confusing to new players?
    So you reach the past Outland through the present Dark Portal, but the present Outland through the Caverns of Time. But it doesn't involve time-travel? This is starting to make the MoP launch look brilliant.

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    Garrisons sound very similar to other systems that other games have, such as the DOFF system with Star Trek Online. While this won't appeal to everyone (honestly, what does appeal to everyone in a game with 7 million subscribers?), those that like that sort of thing will have a new addiction to feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nivena View Post
    I really hope personal loot stays for flex (aka normal). I pug with oqueue and players I have never seen before; this is the best loot system to avoid any drama.
    Well, they said that we can opt into personal loot. So, maybe the raid leader toggles personal loot on or the individual toggles it on and doesn't get to roll on group loot. I too am concerned, as I flex with Oqueue. Maybe the revamp of the raid browser will get rid of our need for Oqueue (fingers crossed) in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medievalman1 View Post
    Garrisons sound very similar to other systems that other games have, such as the DOFF system with Star Trek Online. While this won't appeal to everyone (honestly, what does appeal to everyone in a game with 7 million subscribers?), those that like that sort of thing will have a new addiction to feed.
    The followers going on quests sounds like SWTOR. And yes, the garrison will be my addiction with my millions of alts having different combinations of buildings and followers!

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    Big mistake not changing the Talent system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenknight View Post
    actually if you think for a second about the timeline you would realize there is a potential for Draka to be the female orc in this, not saying that it is her just because it could be a random but; "Thrall (birthname Go'el), son of Durotan (born 2 years ADP)" means that she needs to be alive to give birth to him after the dark portal is opened, in warlords the dark portal has not been opened yet to my knowledge and so Draka must still be alive.

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    Seems to be more logical to send the new one to the caverns and the one from BC to stay accessible by the Dark Portal to me, just because of the nature of these things I assume someone would find a progression taking them to the caverns to be potentially more confusing since the later Outland quests send you back to the CoT as if you would be heading there for the first time.
    Go and read book again if you didn't read it. They were already at Azeroth. Thrall was newborn... And they were Assasinated by a guard. Already in AZEROTH. And then a human found little Thrall. If you don't know lore than don't even talk about it.

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    You can technically buy as many level 90s as you want if you buy another copy of the game, get the level 90, and then transfer the character to your main account each time. The team has talked about putting a level 90 purchase option in the store, but it hasn't been decided yet.
    This is very bad..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkazam View Post
    This is very bad..
    Well they did say they had plans for Asian players who do not pay a sub or buy expacs. But ya the way it's worded they plan to have it active for all regions, which ya is bad.

    They keep saying how much they want people to enjoy older zones through leveling, but just flat out selling characters is like saying "hey we know our non new content sucks so for a base fee you can skip it all, it's not required or anything but if you want to get to the action faster or even have fun where other people are with a new account/character it is optional whether you want to do it or not". If that is the case then, then they need to stop telling people how good their old content is when they know everyone will just feel inclined to pay to skip it.

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