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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by But I Hate You All View Post
    The poll is not fucking bias.

    How would you think that?
    Read the poll options again. If you still do not get it, then what can I say other than you are lacking in the brains department.

  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by detached View Post
    Afaik the family anf friends alpha hasn't even started. I think we are looking at beta in late february and release late august / early september.
    This is also my guess, leaning towards August.

    The way they were talking on the panels, there is still a lot left to do. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that people who believe closed/open beta will begin in December are way too optimistic. Beta isn't really about, "Hey players check out what we've done so far!" it's "Hey players we're 85% of the way done with the content and need you to find bugs." I don't think they're 85% of the way there.

    So my guess is that beta opens to players in March, 5 months of beta makes August.
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  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Servasus View Post
    A pre-patch for an expansion is still a patch.
    Yes, but I responded to you saying content patch. In WoW parlance "content patch" and "pre-patch" are two different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalloa View Post
    This is also my guess, leaning towards August.

    The way they were talking on the panels, there is still a lot left to do. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that people who believe closed/open beta will begin in December are way too optimistic. Beta isn't really about, "Hey players check out what we've done so far!" it's "Hey players we're 85% of the way done with the content and need you to find bugs." I don't think they're 85% of the way there.

    So my guess is that beta opens to players in March, 5 months of beta makes August.
    The person you quoted is misinformed. There was no FnF alpha for MoP.
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  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by But I Hate You All View Post
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Q: "Typically that would be in the Winter of next year. Does that mean it is a goal to bring it in to Summer or Spring?"
    A: "Well certainly the goal is before that, but we'll see, it is very hard for us to predict."


    So in your mind this answer means WoD will come out in November/December of next year. The fact that they say the goal is to release it before summer of 2014 means that it will be released in winter of 2014. Got it.

  5. #145
    they have the biggest team ever. millions of dollars at disposal. they'll make a 5.5, there's no way they couldn't.

  6. #146
    Wow, I can't believe we're having this discussion again. Can we pull up all the Mists discussions on these very same forums where people guaranteed March and April releases because "It was already done at BlizzCon", "They are promising faster content", "Blizzard won't make us wait" etc... etc... Yes they will.

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    they have the biggest team ever. millions of dollars at disposal. they'll make a 5.5, there's no way they couldn't.
    9 women can't make a baby in a month.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    they have the biggest team ever. millions of dollars at disposal. they'll make a 5.5, there's no way they couldn't.
    They already confirmed there are no more patches coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullshot View Post
    So in your mind this answer means WoD will come out in November/December of next year. The fact that they say the goal is to release it before summer of 2014 means that it will be released in winter of 2014. Got it.
    My goal is to make a million dollars before tomorrow. I might fall short of it. See how goals work? They aren't guarantees.

  9. #149
    If I had a choice between a dinky 5.1 style patch, or a new expansion quicker, I think I'd go with the new expansion.

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by stgeorge78 View Post
    My goal is to make a million dollars before tomorrow. I might fall short of it. See how goals work? They aren't guarantees.
    Do you realize how stupid this makes you look? Your random statement that you can't possibly meet versus a company that has been working on a product for quite a while now. They have been working on this expansion for a while, they have producers who do schedules. They know where they are. If they say the goal is for the game to be ready before summer, they will do everything they can to make sure everything's done by then. If it's not, then it may be delayed a short while, but no way will it release in the winter of 2014.

  11. #151
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    WoD will probably be released late spring/early summer.

  12. #152
    What I find humorous is that a Blue had posted a while back that there will be a pre-expansion game event/patch and now they are saying there wont be one. Great example of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Just like they are saying its not a time travel expansion, then say garrosh and us are going back in time to a pre-outlands draenor...

  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Bullshot View Post
    Do you realize how stupid this makes you look? Your random statement that you can't possibly meet versus a company that has been working on a product for quite a while now. They have been working on this expansion for a while, they have producers who do schedules. They know where they are. If they say the goal is for the game to be ready before summer, they will do everything they can to make sure everything's done by then. If it's not, then it may be delayed a short while, but no way will it release in the winter of 2014.
    I think you took the quote too literally, Stgeorge was simply pointing out that Blizzards mention that they might release WOD before next winter is just all talk. Even blizzard themselves said they are not sure if an early release will happen.
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  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Skalm View Post
    What I find humorous is that a Blue had posted a while back that there will be a pre-expansion game event/patch and now they are saying there wont be one. Great example of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Just like they are saying its not a time travel expansion, then say garrosh and us are going back in time to a pre-outlands draenor...

    Since you seem to have gotten conflicting info, let me straighten things out for you.

    #1. There is going to be a pre-xpac event/patch, announced at Blizzcon. It will be a suicide mission throught he Dark Portal into Draenor. There just won't be a proper 5.5 patch.

    #2. We are not going back in time. We are going into an alternate reality where GARROSH went back in time and changed history so that the orcs never drank demon blood and Draenor was never destroyed.

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by SinAscendant View Post
    Since you seem to have gotten conflicting info, let me straighten things out for you.

    #1. There is going to be a pre-xpac event/patch, announced at Blizzcon. It will be a suicide mission throught he Dark Portal into Draenor. There just won't be a proper 5.5 patch.

    #2. We are not going back in time. We are going into an alternate reality where GARROSH went back in time and changed history so that the orcs never drank demon blood and Draenor was never destroyed.
    @#1: I thought they said that 'Suicide' event was the first thing you have to do, in the new expansion, to be able to go to Draenor...? If not, that makes me happy that there is an event before the x-pac.

  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Sprinky View Post
    The only way to teach Blizzard that a long wait is unacceptable is to unsub and wait till the expansion releases.
    This is true.

  17. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Zero View Post
    The person you quoted is misinformed. There was no FnF alpha for MoP.
    My guess doesn't really have anything to do with FnF-A, in fact I referenced only beta, not alphas in my response.

    Let's make some assumptions and see how it affects the timing.

    First off, new character models are a pretty huge part of this expansion. Let's assume they intend to push those out with Warlords. So they've been working on the models for -- what, years? -- and they're suddenly going to go from 2/24 sex/race model updates (currently they've shown us M-Orc and M-Dwarf with some M-Gnome) to 24/24 soon (tm)? Even if they have a system now for getting these models completed I think it's a stretch to say they're going to finish up 22 of them by April.

    Let's say they roll out the models after Warlords hits so it won't delay everything else. The other big feature is Garrisons. I might feel motivated enough later to get you video time-stamps, but on every panel that discussed Garrison's, every third answer Cory Stockton gave way, "well, we still have a lot to figure out about Garrisons and how the _______ component will work exactly." In this case, we're not just talking about art assets to generate, we're talking about some lengthy code/tech to write.

    What about the new land content? It would seem that since we only got one or two pieces of concept art from every zone but 2 so far, Draenor is a long way from being ready to test, let alone ship.

    Again, as everyone says, WoW has a bigger team working on it now. So yeah, maybe that means Beta will only last 4 months this time instead of 6. But even so, I just don't think this x-pac is even close to be ready for testing.
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  18. #158
    would be nice to have something to hold us through

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    The only reason they said what they did was because as usual Blizzard don't want to be kept to a deadline before they're 10000000% sure they can get it out by then, they like to take their time and get it right (except Cataclysm).

    If they said "definitely before September", then all of a sudden they've set a deadline constantly on their back, even if they're sure they'll beat it.

    I'm confident it won't be a year of no content, they said they don't want a repeat of ICC or DS ever again and I don't think the game could handle it tbh. It'll be out June I reckon, as much as they don't want a summer release

  20. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by Skalm View Post
    @#1: I thought they said that 'Suicide' event was the first thing you have to do, in the new expansion, to be able to go to Draenor...? If not, that makes me happy that there is an event before the x-pac.
    http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/11/08/bl...-launch-event/

    Everyone that's reported on it has said it's pre-launch that I've seen. There is a guided questline at the beginning of the expansion but it takes place on the other side of the portal, I think.

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