Buying lvl 90's

[Kneepel]

If you want to keep leveling alts for hours, good for you. However, as someone who is tired of the experience, I will gladly buy a 90 or two. It's about choice and options here. You have the option to buy the 90 or the option to stick with leveling up to 90.

But would you say you DESERVE that character? Since you essentially put no work in and skipped a good 60%+ of the game with it. Plus how would it be fair to start selling 90's for the people who legitimately level their characters up? It just isn't fair for a person that doesn't want to or can't shell out 25+ dollars for a free pass. I'd feel pretty shitty if I spent all that time leveling up, and then somebody instantly boosts themselves to 90.

[Serissa]

But would you say you DESERVE that character? Since you essentially put no work in and skipped a good 60%+ of the game with it.

Without a doubt. I did it (leveling) many times already. It was mindless grind in vanila, it's still mindless grind in mop. Nothing changed. I'll gladly skip it.

[Tackhisis]

So that is why they didn't reduce XP requirements for Cataclysm and Pandaria. To make people pay for an option to skip them. I predicted they will add expansion skipping but in its current form it is inappropriate.

[blackblade]

It's one of those boxes that once it's open, it's hard to get closed again.

While I think that one day it might be needed, I don't think needing multiple "Free 90s" is really needed.

One free 90. Small boost to MoP zones to put a bit of grease into the gears, and you'd be set.

Even if you chose a terrible class for your free 90, you should have no issues getting looms to boost to 85.

Realistically, If you quit in WLK, you'll have 2-4 80's; you'll have RAF as an option; And maybe it'll exist as a loophole (Make new account, boost character, pay 25$ to move to old account)

On the other hand, you can technically "buy" 85's today using raf and a bit of autofollow dungeon running. The triple xp basically means if you have a buddy who can solo instances at 80+ you can get a quick ride there. Better yet, you're banking levels while you do it, so you can also score a free 85 for every 2 85's on the new account. (lol)

If they do a decent job of easing you into the class, like they claim to do, then maybe a 15-20$ pricetag will make sense. Cheaper than buying another set of boxes and a account transfer, but expensive enough that everyone dosen't just go buy all 11 classes at max level, plus an extra druid for gathering.

So that is why they didn't reduce XP requirements for Cataclysm and Pandaria. To make people pay for an option to skip them. I predicted they will add expansion skipping but in its current form it is inappropriate.

This is horseshit, because both of them have already been reduced before.

[Kivimetsan]

I don't understand why its a bad thing...

Think about it: People have busy lives these days, I work five days a week doing around 40 hours. I don't have time to level a character anymore, its one of the reasons why I don't as play much anymore due to the fact that im getting bored of my mains. If I had the option to get a level 90 of any class it would be an incentive to play the game more, thus blizzard makes more money and can invest in more content for all you douche bags that complain about the most trivial nonsensical bullshit imaginable.

If you're mad about it, its probably because you're just too poor to afford and your butthurt.

Shut up losers.

[cmats4020]

paying for lvl 90s is borderline pay to win

Are we getting any epic gear through this payment? Are we going straight to the top level through this payment? Are we getting anything other people can't get through this payment? Are our characters stronger because of this payment? No. We still have to grind for gear as well as level 10 levels to get to the level cap. This is way far off from actual pay-to-win.

But would you say you DESERVE that character? Since you essentially put no work in and skipped a good 60%+ of the game with it. Plus how would it be fair to start selling 90's for the people who legitimately level their characters up? It just isn't fair for a person that doesn't want to or can't shell out 25+ dollars for a free pass. I'd feel pretty shitty if I spent all that time leveling up, and then somebody instantly boosts themselves to 90.

Yes, I DESERVE that character! I just spent my cash on it! And like Serissa said, I did it leveling plenty of of times. Mindless grind today, mindless grind tomorrow; it's not going to change. If it is $25, save your money up. You can obviously hand out $15/month to play this game as well as give your free time to level these alts, so I can expect that you can push a little money to the side to pay for a 90.

[Kneepel]

Yes, I DESERVE that character! I just spent my cash on it! And like Serissa said, I did it leveling plenty of of times. Mindless grind today, mindless grind tomorrow; it's not going to change. If it is $25, save your money up. You can obviously hand out $15/month to play this game as well as give your free time to level these alts, so I can expect that you can push a little money to the side to pay for a 90.

All other characters are irrelevant, do you deserve THAT specific character even though you did NOTHING on your own to level it to it's current state.

Does a sports team deserve the next championship title because they've won the last 5 in a row? Do you deserve liposuction after you spend all that effort losing weight only to gain it back(analogy stemming from fat appreciation thread, fucking dumb idea lol)? I mean, why stop with level 90's! They should start selling full tiers! It's just another shortcut right? Just because you've done it once, maybe twice it means your other characters which you've done raiding on deserve the tiers for their specific classes, right?

Tell me this, before Blizzard ever announced plans for a free 90 did you agree with people buying other accounts via third party websites? It's essentially the same thing, since you're basically buying a character already leveled.

I don't understand why its a bad thing...

Think about it: People have busy lives these days, I work five days a week doing around 40 hours. I don't have time to level a character anymore, its one of the reasons why I don't as play much anymore due to the fact that im getting bored of my mains. If I had the option to get a level 90 of any class it would be an incentive to play the game more, thus blizzard makes more money and can invest in more content for all you douche bags that complain about the most trivial nonsensical bullshit imaginable.

If you're mad about it, its probably because you're just too poor to afford and your butthurt.

Shut up losers.

You mind not getting so angry and being so aggressive over a discussion on the forums? Nobody here is being hostile towards you,

Also if you don't have the time, then why play? You shouldn't be entitled to something because you DON'T have the time and effort to put into it.

How about this, you're putting in so much time and effort into WoW that you don't have time to work. Should you still be paid?

[Karasuko]

But would you say you DESERVE that character? Since you essentially put no work in and skipped a good 60%+ of the game with it. Plus how would it be fair to start selling 90's for the people who legitimately level their characters up? It just isn't fair for a person that doesn't want to or can't shell out 25+ dollars for a free pass. I'd feel pretty shitty if I spent all that time leveling up, and then somebody instantly boosts themselves to 90.

Define deserve?
I could say that anyone who can't play a toon to atleast the same ability level as myself doesn't deserve a jump on leveling.
Now what happens if you don't meet my standards?
Let's face it, leveling has only ever required effort and in the modern paradigm of wow effort has been severely devalued in order to make a buck. What's wrong with that? nothing as far as blizzard is concerned.

Also they're allowing a ding to lvl 90, not 100. The odds are someone who just buys their account is going to be in for a shitty time.Look at ebayers.
Few friends,no guild,no alts,No gear,No professions,2 mounts,no rested,no currency, only basic skills till they get more of them. They're also robbing themselves on how to play their class, the intresting story, the exploration etc etc etc.

And most importantly what does it matter what someone else does? Because they're the same level without getting the same enjoyment out of the leveling experience, without those years of transmog gear,without those years of achieves,reps,gold,mounts.

Before launching into a tirade on how wrong I am I actually agree with you.People should have to make some effort but in the long run, it's the mouthbreathers,window lickers and draino drinkers that keep the lights on at blizzard HQ.

[Prokne]

If someone wants to spend well over $100 for a 90 which will not even be the max level when that is possible doesnt really matter to me. Im not wasting my money on that when you can just heirloom up and power level with dungeons and 300%xp potions.

[Kneepel]

Define deserve?

Before launching into a tirade on how wrong I am I actually agree with you.People should have to make some effort but in the long run, it's the mouthbreathers,window lickers and draino drinkers that keep the lights on at blizzard HQ.

Haha, made my day right there.

[cmats4020]

All other characters are irrelevant, do you deserve THAT specific character even though you did NOTHING on your own to level it to it's current state.

I did something. I paid for it with my own, well-earned cash.

Does a sports team deserve the next championship title because they've won the last 5 in a row? Do you deserve liposuction after you spend all that effort losing weight only to gain it back(analogy stemming from fat appreciation thread, fucking dumb idea lol)? I mean, why stop with level 90's! They should start selling full tiers! It's just another shortcut right? Just because you've done it once, maybe twice it means your other characters which you've done raiding on deserve the tiers for their specific classes, right?

This is irrelevant. Comparing a game to real life is so illogical. Liposuction and sports has nothing to do with WoW in the slightest and passing it off like it does with these attempts at trying to correlate the two is sad. You're taking an optional feature and overplaying it by a long shot. If we're allowed to buy level 90s, then yes, we deserve them because we paid for them. Are we morally deserving? Depends. Morally deserving on my standard is different from others, however, I have several 90s and I don't really feel like going another round at 4 expansions. The content gets old, the experience is old. If I want to pay for a 90 that I can get within a matter of minutes compared to a month (yes, I have a busy schedule I can't level like I used to), then so be it. It's my choice. If you want to level regularly, all the more power to you. Paying for a 90 isn't pay-to-win compared to buying tiers. When we're allowed to buy tiers, that's when we're going P2W. Buying a 90 still requires work in that you have no gold, no professions, barely any abilities, no mounts, etc. You're seriously taking this way too far.

Tell me this, before Blizzard ever announced plans for a free 90 did you agree with people buying other accounts via third party websites? It's essentially the same thing, since you're basically buying a character already leveled.

No, but again, your logic is flawed. We still have to work on these characters unlike characters from third party websites. We still have to get gold we don't have, get mounts, earn achievements, find a guild, etc. And us.battle.net isn't a third party website, so no, it doesn't even correlate to that when Blizzard is advocating the payment for weak level 90s.

[Sicarius87]

paying for lvl 90s is borderline pay to win

Not even close. If the level cap was 90 yes. But we're talking in WoD when its level 100.

[Deleted]

How is getting a lvl 90 char pay to win in an 100 level expansion? What have you won?

What sense of accomplishment do you get after grinding/levelling that 10th toon'? I don't get any.

Intricacies of class mechanics? Are you actually joking me? The game has been so simplified you can understand any class and their abilities in one afternoon, stop being delusional.

Most people do not have 1-2 chars anymore, it's just an optional service that will create more people playing at end game. This feature will also entice new players, or players that gave up during the levelling process. Imagine you are a brand new fresh player, you would have to grind all the way to 100 before enjoying any end game content. This would probably take you months and ultimately most people give up, Blizzard identified this. Grats Billzard, great job in my opinion.

It's really funny that Powerleveling by third-party websites is still illegal, because you pay another person with irl money to do the job to you. Blizzard could easily ban you for that. But now, Blizzard itself add a "powerleveling" option with IRL MONEY. Yeah that not illegal/P2W!! Money goes to Blizzard not third party "organizations"!!!....

Blizzard -> Junior EA....

Without a doubt. I did it (leveling) many times already. It was mindless grind in vanila, it's still mindless grind in mop. Nothing changed. I'll gladly skip it.

Yeah, it's still a Mindless Grind. Do you know how hard and time consuming is to Press the LFD button and wait for the pop up window while you "afk" at SW/Orgri????

[Tekkommo]

Levelling to 90 is a chore and wasted time, it would save me much more time if I could just buy it all from doing 1 hours work at work.

[Deleted]

When someone is coming back to the game, let's say this guy is from the TBc era. He got 30 levels to catch up. Does he want to do it ? Maybe. Blizzard is giving him a choice, " you didn't like WOTLK/CATA/MOP cause you didn't buy it. So here is an option to start in WoD"

Whats wrong? Getting your penties wet cause you won't be special with your 20 90s ?:P Damn you QQ that there are to few tanks, what if this brings back Alot of tanks?

[Unproven]

yea i dont mind.
aslong as we dont get into pay2win.
buying yourselvf not even to max level. sure why not?

[deadman1]

Who cares, its not a max level character.

Other people having a character 10 levels below your main isn't going to help them beat you so it doesn't matter.