F**K that bridge Yaung-hole!! He's a bag of dicks!!
OT: Also, this thread has out lived it's usefulness and is spinning into oblivion, the ride has been fun, but pointless.
Bottom line: Some players think Content A is challenging in some way and fun, some players think it's not. Guess what? YOU'RE BOTH RIGHT.
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As for the charge itself it has a 60 yard range and you can LOS it. I'm not against "anti-run-away" mechanics or "anti-ranged" mechanics on mobs in general, but yeah, they need to be better placed if they are designed to keep you in combat until you kill it or die.
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I agree OP, the entire leveling experience on my warrior up to 90 was basically 'lets see how many mobs I can pull at once and then LOLSTORM them down!". On the island I actually have to think and plan, not just with Ordos mobs but even the Death Adders if I am not specced into a stun.
Not sure why this thread is so full of negativity- it cannot be argued that the mobs on the island hit significantly harder than anything outside of a raid, and personally I find it to be quite fun getting one shot from time to time
But I am glad that people enjoy the isle itself... one tip about Death Adders for a warrior, you can outrange their attack, so leap/charge away as they are finishing their cast and you avoid it completely.  Another trick is that if its finishing its cast you can root it and walk away, you need to do this a bit before he finishes the cast though.
It depends on your character and your server.
On my main, on a super full locked-several-nights-a-week server, Timeless Isle is quite easy - there's always groups - you literally (I tried!) cannot kill Huolon, loot him, leap off the bridge with goblin glider switch to your waterstrider mount and haul ass in time to kill Varsuvius which spawned right as Huolon died. Nope, too late it's already dead. In addition I outgear the content.
But I recently finally dinged 90 on my old neglected former main - he's hitting the Timeless Isle still using his legendary staff, Dragonwrath. (Stop laughing. Screw you all!) I didn't feel like being ganked (Sorry ahole rogue who posted above, I'm weirdly no longer into being a victim) so I got my wife to invite me to a group - so now I'm magically transported via cross-realm grouping (HA I FOUND SOMETHING USEFUL ABOUT CRZ HOLY CRAP) to a medium/low pop PVE server. What a difference! There's no groups to kill stuff, and my god is everything dangerous - and it's all there, too! I never realized how full of monsters the timeless isle was, because on my server we're killing it all, all the time.
Both conditions were fun. On the whole, the busier server was more fun because groups = kills = loot = more fun than plinking away at one elite at a time.
In both cases, getting all the one time chests was fine.
I didn't find it all that challenging, I was able to get a fresh 90 around to all the boxes without fighting anything, got two 535 items plus full 496 gear and a 476 weapon in about 90 minutes by killing the whale, ship, plus some loot from Ordos/Celestials I don't count since it's random. Promptly shelved the new Pally, since I have exactly zero interest in doing LFR again. At least it will be in a good place for 6.0, should I wind up wanting to switch mains.
TI just sucks if you don't have a DPS spec. I basically just wait for evermaw/ship, huo, cinder, etc and just kill them to slowly churn out some coins.
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I agree. People are cheesing in their replies, I think ("What? That 100 pound bag is heavy? I could hardly feel it"). As usual. If you hit up TI in quest greens and blues (or even 476ish gear) it can be pretty interesting. If you don't pay attention, the mobs can kill you fairly quickly at any ilvl. That said, Chi-Ji's buff is really, really OP for some classes. Like ridiculously OP.
Just as an aside, if you're wandering into this thread claiming that no, you didn't notice any difference between 500k hp Isle of Thunder mobs and the 1.3 mill+ hp TI mobs that have special abilities that hit like a truck... we know you're both full of crap and posturing on an internet forum, and frankly it's a little weird.
@OP, I didn't find it hard as a dinged or geared max level (I quite enjoyed trying to kill the more difficult mobs like the charging yaungol on my mage while levelling though) but I can see how other players would. It's definitely nice that the island can meet a large range of skill levels where at the top of the island if i lose focus I will be dead in 5 seconds.
@alternategray it's class dependent. Melee dps are going to naturally struggle more to most of the threats on the island, especially the key killers such as molten guardians (cinderfall) that ranged can just outrange. Ranged with pets especially trivialize the island mobs and while it is annoying, it's not exactly cutting edge content they're trivializing so it's not a huge deal.
Stuff that is more difficult to avoid (i.e. hard hitting melee attacks which require CC or kiting) usually makes for content that's more difficult - except by tanks, which is a reason I think they've moved away from just melee attacks.
I mentioned the Yaungol endurance factor difficulty also: They have semi-easily avoidable per mob (harder if you are melee and have more than one mob) near-instant kills (instant if you are undergeared). Despite that you only really see deaths if you are a decent player due to endurance factor - the attacks aren't that difficult to dodge, but you have to dodge a lot of them, and a single mistake (out of many, many dodges) is an instant kill. Luckily, we don't play Diablo Hardcore Mode, but even if we did the solution would be to be extra careful only to pull one mob at a time, and not to do too many in one sitting.
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I agree, I enjoy being reminded of my in-game mortality every once in awhile. That being said, I think Blizzard missed the boat with the Isle, and should have made mobs share tags (regular/elite mobs, not rares) in the same fashion as Guild Wars 2. Being on a high pop server sucks if you want to kill anything at most hours.
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