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    Stood in the Fire Deruyter's Avatar
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    Are players from the original WoW community a minorty in WoW now?

    Just something I wondered lately.

    I notice so many completely new players around me that I wonder if newer generations have taken over the torch from the "Original players" that started in the early years. And by new player I mean players that started in MoP and to a lesser extend in Cataclysm.

    What do you guys think? Do you experience something simular?

    P.s. please dont make this about what group is better etc., just focus on the main question

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    Not sure how old you consider "original." I played about 6 months of Vanilla on in, and although I still play now (albeit very sporadically) probably 80% of the people I started playing with have quit. So from my anecdotal experience, yes.
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    The majority of my current guild are players that started in either Vanilla or TBC. But we do have some people that started in later expansions. Though not many.
    Obviously, this is just my guild but I don't really notice too many people that are brand spanking new to the game.

    There are far less people that started in MoP than there are people that started earlier.

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    You can tell they are by the overwhelming mentality that exists nowadays.

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    Yes, and Blizzard confirmed it at some point. Sorta. They said "More players have quit wow at some point than are playing it now".
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    its been nearly 10yra (9yr achievement just hit yesterday I think), so yes... the 1.5-2million players from vanilla are a minority.

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    I'm still here.

    And lordy it's a different game and culture entirely. For better and for worse.

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    Most i know started in vanilla/tbc.
    Some of from later on, but doesn't seem like that many.
    Everyone has so much to say
    They talk talk talk their lives away

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    Definitely most have quit, in my experience anyway, I don't speak to a single person on my friend's list now, most of them have been logged out for months, it's quite sad really.

    However don't let people feed the myth that the community hasn't always been full of trolls, whiners and ass holes, it was just as bad back in vanilla/TBC, so much so that they even removed LFG channel.

    The one MAJOR difference I would say is the willingness to communicate, and this is the most depressing part of the game for me now.

    Back in the day people were a lot more open, people would chat all day on trade/general, you'd make friends with people in your guild and people you ran into in the world (even though a lot were bell ends).

    Now it really feels like most people keep to their tight knit groups, and don't like really communicating with others.

    I find that really sad, and I don't know how it's gone like that, I guess you can blame Blizzard for allowing all content to be done without communication (outside proper raiding), but I think gaming community as a whole has become more isolated.

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    Judging from my friendslist, polls here on the forums, and talking to people ingame, yeah I'd say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by namelessone View Post
    Yes, and Blizzard confirmed it at some point. Sorta. They said "More players have quit wow at some point than are playing it now".
    True, think they brought that up regarding the TBC subscription numbers.
    The game has always lost more than it kept hold of.
    The difference is that it isn't attracting new players as quickly.
    The downright horrible community is part of it, the cost, increased competition.
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    Definately. And its really hard to believe some people when they say they started in vanilla. I even made a joke to someone who said he played vanilla by saying ''at what % did you need bloodlust to kill C'thung?''. He answered the last 10% xDDDDD

    (to those who don't get it, bloodlust wasn't avaialble in vanilla...)

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    Where do you stop counting somebody as "Original" player? In WotLK the term "Wrath baby" was coined. You probably need to only take Classic players into account and maaayyyybbbeeeee TBC players

    Naturally we are becoming a minority, but nobody can answer that without the data....

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    ....so yes... the 1.5-2million players from vanilla are a minority.
    Where did you get that number from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akraen View Post
    I'm still here.

    And lordy it's a different game and culture entirely. For better and for worse.
    Could not have said it better my self.

    I imagine this is what an immortal must feel like, to be a relic of an age long gone, to remember your friends and moments from the past and the fun times you had but then to look out at the world around you and see something that shares similarities but is vastly different from the world you grew up in.

    kinda exciting in a way and at other times a bit lonely feeling. In the last few guilds I have been a part of, I have been the longest playing player and people even doubt me sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    True, think they brought that up regarding the TBC subscription numbers.
    The game has always lost more than it kept hold of.
    The difference is that it isn't attracting new players as quickly.
    It's more or less the nature of popular culture, including video games, that they're largely disposable and that people move on to something else after a while. Blizzard has done remarkably well to hang on to as many people as they have if you judge by the number of people posting who say there were here for vanilla or BC. Of course, posting here and actually playing are different things. I suspect there's a tremendous amount of BS posted regarding this subject.

    I think the original community that played during vanilla has been the minority for a very long time. Probably since Wrath.
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    I started in December 2005 and I have quit since 2012. Everybody I have known from 2-3 guilds have quit too. I see some of them on Skype from time to time. Ad Memoriam:



    Every single person from this 25 man raid guild of 2008 have quit too, most during Catafail. I sincerely doubt there's even 20% of the original fanbase left. What few veteran players were left probably quit during the course of World of Kung Fu Pandas/Pokemon.
    NINJA TURTLES as the next playable WoW race/class combo. WoW has got Kung Fu Pandas, Pokemon and recently even Transformers in it, so I don't see how Ninja Turtles would be any less pathetic than current "WoW" is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akraen View Post
    I'm still here.

    And lordy it's a different game and culture entirely. For better and for worse.
    Very True Akraen well said, their are alot of us still around, I know a bunch of old Vanilla / TBC players coming back for WoD as they are excited for the new systems changes & 20 man Mythic.

    The culture of the game as changed alot like you said, we are all not all learning anymore. I still think its are duty as a community to help put those new players on the right track like players did for us back when we first started out.

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    It all depends on what you mean by "Original". If you mean those who played all of Vanilla, then yes definitely the minority. If you mean those why played any of Vanilla, probably still a minority. It would be interesting statistics for Blizzard to release, how many accounts have been created or closed (and not reopened) since the game began. I'm sure they have that data, but I can't blame them for not releasing it.
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    It's only natural.

    WoW is old. Very, very, old. Over the course of 9 years, people are going to come and go. It's inevitable.

    Some people seem to be under the impression that if only X had been better, or Y had never been implemented, that somehow no one would have ever quit. Naturally that's just unrealistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterpd85 View Post
    its been nearly 10yra (9yr achievement just hit yesterday I think), so yes... the 1.5-2million players from vanilla are a minority.
    WoW had close to 8 million people at the end of Vanilla.

    I do suspect they are the minority now though. I know most of the people I knew from Vanilla and TBC are long since gone. Of the two guilds I was in, one in Vanilla and one in TBC, I know a total of 6 people that still play regularly, and maybe another 4 or 5 that subscribe on and off. It's just not the game it used to be, and I think that's what drove most of them off.

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