Poll: Hardest boss for individual survival (not take Classic)

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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Imhere View Post
    You must be referring to another thread because it clearly doesn't say that anywhere here

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    Irrelevant. He said kael remained un killed the longest after being available. That is wrong
    Obviously your blind or not looking i see it clearly. Scroll to the top where the poll is right above the poll.
    And Kael was unbeatable for months idk though maybe H LK was longer though

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    Artificial delay. They only had 50 attempts or so every week.
    You had 1 month of normal mode loot, 1(2?) months of heroic loot which also gave you 200-400 attempts before the 5% buff.

  3. #43
    Yogg+0 was the hardest of those you mention, no doubt.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by teebo View Post
    Wasnt ICC the first heroic they made lol? Not counting the hardmode ulduar thing.
    Well there was Trial of the Grand Crusader. But yeah, I phrased that as a way to say it was my first time raiding current content to total completion. Probably could have worded it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulsokar37 View Post
    And why isnt Chogall on here? It took raiding guilds a long time to kill him on heroic before the nerfs i might add
    Wasn't that purely a dps race? Not a lot of tough mechanics for individuals to overcome.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Fanrir View Post
    Yea, because they had to nerf the tendons; no one had the dps to kill them in time. Spine wasn't really hard anyways and individual survival wasn't a problem on that fight at all.
    as a DPS you can say it wasnt hard.. as a Healer this fight was pretty intense

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    I honestly feel Ascendance Council, Mimiron and Siegewiper Blackfuse should have all be in this poll as well. Especially Council, idk if anyone remembers but Paragon got World First Council with just 1 person left alive( Go Go Capt Planet). I would also suggest Dark Shaman but 3 tanking kinda trivializes that fight.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    I believe Paragon and the others said Ragnaros 25 HC was the hardest boss yet, and there hasn't been one worse as of yet?
    I remember the last time someone posted a thread like this, Lappe (from Paragon) said:

    - Heroic Lich King
    - Heroic Al'akir (pre nerf)
    - Heroic Ragnaros
    - Heroic Lei Shen
    - Heroic Sinestra

    In another post he implied that because of the limited attempts on heroic Lich King they spent a lot of time strategizing between pulls, which is why it only took them around 174 attempts I believe. So you can't really compare that number to the amount of attempts on Ragnaros because they probably "threw" themselves at the boss for 500 attempts.
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  8. #48
    Pre-nerf C'thun or Pre-nerf Muru.

    Funny that the two hardest bosses ever aren't even on here.
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  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Redmage View Post
    Pre-nerf C'thun or Pre-nerf Muru.

    Funny that the two hardest bosses ever aren't even on here.
    They said no classic thats why cthun isnt on here sadly

  10. #50
    Yogg 0 lights and HC Ragnaros.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer View Post
    Was it really THAT hard to run out of a puddle? Why?!
    It's not that it was hard. The thing that made it hard was that it was extremely unforgiving and one mistake by one individual was game over. It wasn't like "Oh darn you're dead. Battle rez."

    Ragnaros was also incredibly intense on heroic mode. If one tank messed up it was game over for sure.

    I would say that Lich King was technically more demanding just because Ragnaros' insta wipe was something that the two tanks dealt with. Lich King's one shot was something EVERY player had to deal with.

    Yogg was extremely difficult as well but I never got to experience it when it was current content. The individual mechanic was basically avoiding every single freaking attack that came your way in order to minimize insanity. I'd say that was probably pretty difficult.

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    yogg0 and LK25H before the buffs

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Redmage View Post
    Pre-nerf C'thun.
    He wasn't hard... he was 100% unkillable. Even Blizzard knew that. That doesn't make it hard. You could easily just buff any bosses damage and health by something that seems insignificant and that would make the boss impossible to kill. For example, Morchok was an easy boss. If they simply made his stomp do too much damage to soak reliably then it's game over. If Almalg of Pride's pulsing AoE effect is over tuned then it becomes impossible. If Malkorok had more health and the berserk timer was impossible not to hit then it would be impossible. But none of those fights would be any harder.

    TL;DR A boss that is physically impossible to kill in current gear level does not make it hard.

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    c'thun hands down hardest boss so far not the longest but the hardest .
    Agree ?

  15. #55
    No Muru?

    Seems lost without CTHUN and Muru on that list.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerfiend View Post
    No Muru?

    Seems lost without CTHUN and Muru on that list.
    I think the only objective thing everyone agrees on is the fact that such a discussion will always lead to the question if you can consider M'uru / C'thun as legit Boss for these matters, since they seemed to be severely overtuned and / or bugged.

  17. #57
    Heroic Ragnaros survival galore. Sinestra with the beams and interupts.. dispels.

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    For the fights I've killed, Heroic Dark Animus. There's so many ways to screw up, and one person standing in a pool, losing aggro or whatever most likely means a wipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulsokar37 View Post
    Obviously your blind or not looking i see it clearly. Scroll to the top where the poll is right above the poll.
    And Kael was unbeatable for months idk though maybe H LK was longer though
    It says nothing of it. You should screenshot and post it up here just so you can see how wrong you are.

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    Of those, I'd say Heroic Lich King closely followed by Heroic Ragnaros. Al'akir also deserves a mention in 25-man, because it was silly, but I'd more say that was just badly designed for 25 people rather than outright challenging your abilities.
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